"I'm about family entertainment. I'm not about having sex on stage." — Page 2

jbird5 said: "Here's an idea, let the marketplace decide.



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My vote as well. No reason for anyone to be nasty about personal taste -- as long as no one burns down the theatre they don't like. My time is valuable (even more than my money) -- I get to decide what I want to do with my "culture" time.

Nothing wrong with different towns liking different fare --

In any market with numerous theater companies, each tends to have its own niche. While one specializes in traditional classics, another does edgier work and another focuses on original material. That's not to say that any one of those companies might not occasionally dip its toes into another genre. The bottom line is that there's plenty of room for everyone and everything.

Borstalboy said: "And what if one is exasperated and/or offended by it? Then what?



Then you don't go see shows created by the makers of SOUTH PARK or based on a 19th Century play that was banned for sexual obscenity. In this day and age there is no reason to be misinformed of such things. Of course, educating yourself would rob you of the opportunity to being victimized and offended by a show, a sensation you report with a relish bordering on the sexual.



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I can't stop re-reading this beautiful post.

101 Dalmatians? That atrocious piece of crap died two months ahead of schedule way back in 2010.

icecreambenjamin said: "rwlevin said: "After Eight said: ""Oscar Hammerstein was spinning the world forward."

He had decorum. Class, too. He wrote about raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens, not about having maggots in one's scrotum or being totally ****ed.

He also wrote about having to be taught to hate and fear. Of being afraid of people whose eyes are oddly made and skin that's a different shade. That's pretty darn progressive.





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rwlevin, I think you misinterpreted that song. Maybe you need to see South Pacific again. It was an incredibly progressive musical that discussed how racism is something that is learned. How people feel the need to "hate all the people their relatives hate."






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You didn't understand my point. He was writing about racism at a time when that was a taboo subject which is progressive. I one hundred percent understand that song.

"And what if one is exasperated and/or offended by it? Then what?"


"I think the answer is obvious, avoid the show."



Obvious only to someone whose sense of time is completely askew. Perhaps you fail to see that your heartfelt and compassionate advice would be totally worthless to someone who has already seen and suffered through some dreadful-beyond-words opus. I also think your suggestion --- gracious as it unquestionably is --might somehow be less than warmly received if you actually tried it on someone.

But you know, you've got a pretty neat trick there of deflecting blame onto those who deserve none And when you think of it, one could apply your technique to any failing in any show, and the creators could walk away blameless! "The characters were obnoxious." "Avoid them," "The music was lousy." "Avoid it.""The book was a mess." "Avoid it." And all the way down the line. How nifty, and so easy too! Problem is, no one is buying it. It is up to the creators of a show to provide a satisfactory theatrical experience. If they fail to do so, the blame is entirely theirs.

"Those who, for instance, storms out of "American Idiot" in an outrage have only themselves to blame for not knowing what they were walking into. "



Blame goes to those responsible for the messes they create: the creators for creating them, the producers for producing them.

Moreover, just because some fortunate theatregoers manage to avoid seeing trash, stupidity, or whatever else on the stage does not make trash any less so, stupidity any less so, or whatever else any less so. An audience's absence does not transform dross into gold.

Which is why someone like Mr. Jenkins deserves the commendation and admiration of theatregoers everywhere. Not only did he spare his audiences the experience of sitting through wretched shows, he displayed the sort of good taste, sense, and judgment that our theatre desperately needs nowadays. Would that we had more people with Mr. Jenkins's ideals producing in New York.

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He could have presented these shows as 'non-subscription' / special offerings, but he won't even do that. Then his audiences don't even have the choice to buy the tickets. That's not fair to his audience and to the shows that may want to play there.

DSM got Pippin last summer which literally had an orgy on stage.



But in all seriousness, I remember when the news first broke that Jenkins got fired in March a article wrote that DSM didn't have a profit since 2008, (The year ATTPAC opened) and subscriber count has been very low for the last few years.



It also needs to be noted that ATTPAC also presents family friendly shows as well, they got Newsies, Matilda, and Finding Neverland shows which fit into DSM's mold.

trpguyy said: "Dallas Theatre Fan said: "DSM got Pippin last summer which literally had an orgy on stage."

It figuratively had an orgy on stage.



If they literally had an orgy on stage, you'd think they would be more profitable in Dallas. That Baptist subscriber base would be all over that as long as they could be assured that the house lights stayed low. I think it was Dan Jenkins who said, "Baptists are like tomcats: You know they fool around. You just can't catch 'em at it."

I was watching old interviews with Adam Pascal and Anthony Rapp on youtube and came across this one from the tour they did in 2009. The end of the interview says the show is at the Music Hall. Was that not under Jenkins jurisdiction, or was he okay with putting sex on stage in 2009?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90q1X2X9yPM

jennab113 said "I was watching old interviews with Adam Pascal and Anthony Rapp on youtube and came across this one from the tour they did in 2009. The end of the interview says the show is at the Music Hall. Was that not under Jenkins jurisdiction, or was he okay with putting sex on stage in 2009?"

Back in the day the Dallas summer musicals had a series called Broadway Contemporary Series which took place in the fall at the smaller Majestic Theatre. The point of this series was for them to bring in edgier broadway tours play and musicals (like Rent, Chicago, Cabaret ect) that would not normally be included in the larger summer musicals subscription. This series did not last long because it did not sell well.

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