Jennifer Holliday Will Not Perform At tRump's Inauguration- Page 8

[backwoodsbarbie]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 7:44pm

Peer pressure is real.

[broadwayguy91]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 7:57pm

backwoodsbarbie said: "Peer pressure is real.

 

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more like preserving the remnants of your career is real. 

[MichelleCraig]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 8:01pm

Sabrelady has posted a number of messages like this: OH sistah, bout a day late and dollah short.

I'm surprised nobody has found this...and this person's other posts offensive. Seems sort of Amos and Andy to me...but I guess you're looking the other way...

I supported Hillary in 2008. Just an FYI... Supported her in this past election as well.

[gypsy101]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 8:03pm

eh i don't see anything offensive about sabrelady's post, it kind of is a day late and a dollar short

[MichelleCraig]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 8:08pm

^^Wow. Just wow...

[kdogg36]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 9:17pm

What do all of you make of the fact that Hillary Clinton will be attending Trump's inauguration?

If the argument here is that conspicuous participation in the inauguration equates to endorsement an evil man - with which I agree - doesn't that apply to her as well? 

My point is that those of us who truly oppose Trump have to conclude that Hillary is scum, too. I wish I hadn't voted for her.

[gypsy101]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 9:27pm

she was his adversary in the election, i don't find it very strange that she'll be attending.

MichelleCraig, what is allegedly so offensive about that post?

[Sunny11]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 9:51pm

I believe Its traditional for former presidents to attend inaugurations ? So Hillary might be there in the "role" of former first lady accompanying Bill. 

Updated On: 1/15/17 at 09:51 PM

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 9:54pm

I think the difference between a performer and a political figure attending the inauguration is huge. A performer is under no obligation to even acknowledge the date. Generally performing is seen as supporting the candidate/president-elect. However, because of Hillary's unique social positition (former First Lady), she is sort of under a social obligation to attend, as past presidents and their wives have done for generations. Miss Clinton also vowed to ensure a "smooth transition" (albeit at the time in order to request he would do the same) should she lose. Miss Clinton has done her best to stay out of the way politically these past few months, even when most supporters (myself included) would have liked a bigger voice during the recount effort. But, she has done everything possible to try to bridge the gap between the country and allow it to heal (as has Obama, made very clear in his farewell speech). While most of us view Mr. Trump as a reprehensible human, Miss Clinton's unique position would come across as being a sore loser and would not create the effect of "protesting" the inauguration. I think she really only ever had one choice: to attend the ceremony. As for myself, I find the way she has conducted herself since November 9th to be the definition of class and grace. She has remained utterly composed even under horrible circumstances and a terrible personal blow. I will always be proud to have supported her since 2015, and as far back as 2008 (when I was too young to vote, but still rabidly followed the polls). Before you condem her for attending the inauguration, keep in mind the strenuous political minefield she has had to maneuver  through. The best thing she can possibly do is to be the calm, classy presence that so effectively highlights Trump's horrific conduct.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 10:09pm

Well, I think normalizing Trump is a bad thing. The fact that she might be "expected" to attend - both as his political rival and as a former First Lady - makes it all the more sad that she didn't decline to do so. All of us should take whatever opportunity we have to oppose Trump. She had a bigger opportunity than most of us, and she blew it (unless she changes her mind very soon).

[adamgreer]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 10:50pm

kdogg36 said: "What do all of you make of the fact that Hillary Clinton will be attending Trump's inauguration?

If the argument here is that conspicuous participation in the inauguration equates to endorsement an evil man - with which I agree - doesn't that apply to her as well? 

My point is that those of us who truly oppose Trump have to conclude that Hillary is scum, too. I wish I hadn't voted for her.

 

She's in a tough spot. It's tradition for all living former presidents to attend the inauguration. As the wife of a former president, she would of course be attending with him. Now if there were ever a year to break with this tradition, this would be it. 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 10:59pm

My view is that Hillary is demonstrating maturity and an upstanding adult awareness and understanding of the world around her. I've never liked her as a political candidate, but I've always admired and respected her love of country, and she's clearly able to reconcile her loss with the fact that we need national unity and support behind our new President. She said in her very concession speech, "Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead."

I wish more people would take Mrs. Clinton's cue.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 1/15/17 at 11:08pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "I wish more people would take Mrs. Clinton's cue."

Yeah, I'm not going to do that. My vote for Clinton was tenuous and that support was obliterated by her ridiculous choice to normalize Trump after the election.

Anyone with the slightest understanding of the world around him/her realizes that opposing Trump is a moral imperative. Are you in?

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 1/16/17 at 2:46am

And Hillary repeatedly stood up for everything Trump stood for. Had she not been Bill Clinton's wife, I very much doubt she would be attending the ceremony. But if they didn't appear, it wouldn't send a message of protest, it looks like a politician not admitting they lost or them being unable to face the fact. Both Miss Clinton and Mr. Obama obviously have very negative feelings towards the incoming administration. However, they are being professional and generous by providing the smoothest transition possible (a long standing tradition). I personally believe that both will be very outspoken after the 20th, when they can actually comment on his acts as president. There is nothing either of them can do to stop his inauguration, so the best thing they can do is allow it to happen as easily as possible (and note that all the transition drama is from Trump's side) and proceed to judge him as president, not president-elect. They were very clear in their opinions of him as a candidate. It's a very complicated situation that requires looking at many different points of view, and even if we don't agree, you have to admit that simply boycotting the inauguration was not going to send a clear message to the nation (perhaps her supporters, but not the country at large).

Updated On: 1/16/17 at 02:46 AM

[Dave28282]

Posted: 1/16/17 at 5:48am

Sally Durant Plummer said: " Both Miss Clinton and Mr. Obama obviously have very negative feelings towards the incoming administration. However, they are being professional and generous "

Professionalism is all about getting over yourself. Being above it, being mature.

 

[Valentina3]

Posted: 1/16/17 at 10:49am

"I personally believe that both will be very outspoken after the 20th, when they can actually comment on his acts as president." I completely agree with this. Angela Merkel made a similar statement when asked to respond to Trump's comments.

[A Director]

Posted: 1/16/17 at 1:24pm

Sally Durant Plummer said: "face the fact. Both Miss Clinton and Mr. Obama obviously have very negative feelings towards the incoming administration.

MR. Sally Durant Plummer,    Miss Clinton?  Who is Miss Clinton?  The proper form of address is either Mrs. Clinton or Ms Clinton!

 

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 1/16/17 at 9:51pm

"However, they are being professional and generous by providing the smoothest transition possible (a long standing tradition). I personally believe that both will be very outspoken after the 20th, when they can actually comment on his acts as president. However, they are being professional and generous by providing the smoothest transition possible (a long standing tradition). I personally believe that both will be very outspoken after the 20th, when they can actually comment on his acts as president. "

 

Like you said it has been a tradition to provide a smooth transition so President Obama is basically doing his job just like the other former Presidents.

 

 

Updated On: 1/16/17 at 09:51 PM

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 1/17/17 at 7:54am

 


 

Updated On: 1/17/17 at 07:54 AM

[Theater_Nerd]

Posted: 1/17/17 at 8:01am

yankeefan7 said: "Totally forgot about this, funny how Jennifer forgot Mr. Trump coming to her rescue in her time of need. See below.

"In 2008, Access Hollywood reported, “In the wake of her family tragedy, Jennifer Hudson has received a helping hand from a very unlikely source – Donald Trump. Jennifer and some of her family members have been staying at the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago – and Trump has been picking up the tab.”

 

What does any of that have to do with Jennifer HOLLIDAY?

 

 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 1/17/17 at 8:04am

BroadwayConcierge said: "adamgreer, are you ever going to stop tracking down my every single post on here? If you'd actually take a second to read, I've responded quite thoroughly to many others on this thread (and others) because they've engaged with the conversation in a similarly cordial manner. You seem to have become quite obsessed with me after I proved you were quite wrong in an earlier thread. Moreover, I do indeed reserve the right not to respond to asinine questions and comments, such as the ones you persistently badger me with on here. Please leave me alone.  

 

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Ohhhhhh, poor wittle baby wants to spout right wing billsh*t endlessly on a theatre board and now he wants to be left alone when he gets called out.

 

Please.

 

And I can assure you that NO ONE on here is obsessed with you. They, and I, simply cannot believe the garbage that constantly spews out of your disgraceful posts. Why don't you go take your act to Fox News instead and give us all a break. And take puke-a-licious or whatever the hell her name is with you. 

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 1/17/17 at 8:35am

"What does any of that have to do with Jennifer HOLLIDAY?"

You are correct, my bad. (lol) Guess I need more coffee. I have erased my post.

 

Updated On: 1/17/17 at 08:35 AM

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 1/17/17 at 9:12am

 

Yeah. That's it. You just need more coffee.

[theatreguy12]

Posted: 1/17/17 at 12:58pm

Ms. Holliday indeed made her decision.  And good for her for doing so.  It's a shame that tactics beyond just peer pressure played into it. People making everything from comments about her talent, and being a "has been," or whatever, to things even more vile.  It's one thing to bring to her attention things he's said and express your disapproval of her participating.  It's something quite different to call her names, put her down, or worse.  That's just resorting to the same tactics many are accusing him of.

What it comes down is man's inhumanity to man (and women).   And unfortunately that doesn't just limit itself to one side of the aisle or the other.

As a gay guy, I've seen gay men make some pretty unsavory comments about other gay guys because they didn't measure up in looks, physique, or whatever.

So IMO, D T making a harsh comment about his primary opponents is really no different than that.  It's all disrespectful. And no, I did not vote for D T.....so I have no horse in that discussion.  

Now is it a little different his being a presidential candidate and making those comments vs. some gay guy in a bar making those comments about another guy?  Sure.  And many of us didn't vote for him because of that.  

But what isn't different is the disrespect behind it.

Unfortunately there are also men on the other side of the aisle who haven't been totally respectful of their wives either, in various forms of behavior.  And some who have even been caught making comments that would put the "r" word into play as well. Including in very recent years.

So where does that leave us?  Do two wrongs make a right?  No.

But being selectively appalled does nothing to further relationships between human beings.   It just continues to divide without doing anything to solve the problem.  

Again, man's inhumanity and disrespect to man (and women) is not right, no matter what side of the aisle it's on.  And I sure hope it improves.  But I'm really....not so sure.

 

[boonanas]

Posted: 1/17/17 at 1:05pm

I consider myself left leaning but I've never seen so much hate spewed by left leaning folks than after this election.  It truly is insane.