LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRACK.- Page 6

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 2:34pm

How would they ever know for sure who the babby daddy is anyway? There was no CSI or Maury Povich back then.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 2:43pm

If the Phantom can build a giant Christine Automaton, then he can very well build a time machine to pick up Maury.

[Sheila2]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 3:53pm

Well, can we see Phantom as having some special ability to keep himself young? lol

[Schmerg_The_Impaler]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 4:01pm

Maybe they could identify Gustave as Erik's son because he physically takes after him? Hahaha...

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 6:09pm

In this case, Christine's baby daddy is Raoul, the Phantom, and her own father. :O





(And in the book, they know Christine's son is the Phantom's because Raoul got his gamete shooter shot off in a game.)




Updated On: 10/10/09 at 06:09 PM

[Schmerg_The_Impaler]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:08pm

(EDITED FOR STUPIDITY. I thought that the post was referring to the fact that Christine mistakes the Phantom for her father.)

Updated On: 10/10/09 at 07:08 PM

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:17pm

Aw, not for stupidity. It's hard to tell that they're all Ramin, especially if you don't know that he played Raoul, the Phantom, and Daddy Daae.

He's played a gazillion huge ALW and/or Cameron Mackintosh roles. Joe Gillis, Chris Scott, Enjolras, Simon, Marius, Raoul, the Phantom...
Updated On: 10/10/09 at 07:17 PM

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:39pm

Ramin played Christine's father in the movie and now he's playing the Phantom? I didn't know that. That's slightly icky.
Updated On: 10/11/09 at 07:39 PM

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:42pm

Well. He had a tiny cameo as her dad (he was playing Raoul in the West End at the time). To quote Ramin, his name in the credits had more screen time than he did, LOL.

Updated On: 10/10/09 at 07:42 PM

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 9:54pm

Yeah, his "playing" the role is only as a still photograph. I don't think there was actually any scene with him in it.

That is pretty funny though.

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 10:15pm

In addition to the photo, there's a really short (and silent) flashback scene where it's all blurry and he's lying in a bed, talking to young Christine. (It's what plays as Christine is telling Meg what her dad told her as he was dying, about being protected by an angel.)


My Phantom DVD was nearby, so I popped it in my laptop real quick. Ramin has a grand total of seven seconds of screen time, LOL.

Updated On: 10/10/09 at 10:15 PM

[MCfan2]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 10:37pm

The dad is now the Phantom, huh? Daddy issues ahoy!

(With apologies to Cleolinda: http://community.livejournal.com/m15m/6231.html )

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 10:40pm

You were once
My dad and best friend...
But now you're dead
And I've got daddy issues.

:'(


Cleolinda's parody is bril, but I do think Phantom of the Opera Abridged is funnier. I was dying with laughter the first time I read it.

Updated On: 10/11/09 at 10:40 PM

[SporkGoddess]

Posted: 10/10/09 at 11:15pm

Isn't he also in the movie when Christine's in the cemetary and her father's ghost like plays the violin? Or am I totally not remembering this right?

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 12:34am

Er, nope... There's the bit where Christine's on her way to the cemetery, and there's a violin playing, but it's just the background music. (And it's also in the stage show, so nothing new there.)

That would be cool if there were a Daddy Daae ghost, though.

Updated On: 10/11/09 at 12:34 AM

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:10am

About the whole Phantom being the daddy thing -- I'm thinking he got her pregnant while she was sleeping. There is that awquard lyric... "In sleep he sang to me. In dreams he came."

Too much?

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:14am

That would be one DEEP sleep, LOL.

Something tells me ALW isn't going to give us an explanation. He'll leave us to believe what we want to believe about Gusty's conception, even though every possibility cheapens the Phantom's character.

I'm just gonna believe that it's magic and he got her pregnant by kissing her. IT WAS PHANTOM MAGIC.


OR maybe, since Raoul got his parts shot off (in the book at least), Christine wanted kids and went to a sperm bank and just HAPPENED to choose the right stuff. Yes. That's what happened.

If the Phantom works out in his spare time, who's to say that he doesn't also donate sperm in his spare time? Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:14 AM

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:24am

Like immaculate conception? Creepy.

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:27am

If the Phantom can make people sound like toads and lower portcullises with a wave of his hands, he can impregnate people with kisses. :) Like I said, he's MAGIC.

He can do anything he wants to except remove his disfigurement, apparently. Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:27 AM

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:37am

You want to know what I think? He's Raoul's son. Every other possibility doesn't make sense. And if it does, it cheapens the Phantom's character like somebody else said. If he's Raoul's son, it creates another complication for Phantom and Christine ever being together at all.

Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:37 AM

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:39am

I hope this show takes place on the Starship Enterprise complete with a Jason X-esque type Phantom.

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:41am

But if he's Raoul's son, then the only purpose he serves in the story is, as you said, to make it so Erik and Christine can't be together. But that would be pointless. They already can't be together, since, y'know, Christine is sort of married to Raoul.

Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:41 AM

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:43am

I hope this show takes place on the Starship Enterprise complete with a Jason X-esque type Phantom.

And I hope Constantine Rousouli plays the guy that just stands stage left for the entire show... naked.
Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:43 AM

[HollyGolightly2]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:44am

Maybe the twist is that Christine's son is Constantine Rousouli's.

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:46am

That's good theatre right there.