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LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRACK.- Page 6

LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRACK.

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#125

Posted: 10/10/09 at 2:34pm

How would they ever know for sure who the babby daddy is anyway? There was no CSI or Maury Povich back then.

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#126

Posted: 10/10/09 at 2:43pm

If the Phantom can build a giant Christine Automaton, then he can very well build a time machine to pick up Maury.

re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#127

Posted: 10/10/09 at 3:53pm

Well, can we see Phantom as having some special ability to keep himself young? lol

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#128

Posted: 10/10/09 at 4:01pm

Maybe they could identify Gustave as Erik's son because he physically takes after him? Hahaha...


In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#129

Posted: 10/10/09 at 6:09pm

In this case, Christine's baby daddy is Raoul, the Phantom, and her own father. :O

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(And in the book, they know Christine's son is the Phantom's because Raoul got his gamete shooter shot off in a game.)




Updated On: 10/10/09 at 06:09 PM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#130

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:08pm

(EDITED FOR STUPIDITY. I thought that the post was referring to the fact that Christine mistakes the Phantom for her father.)


In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
Updated On: 10/10/09 at 07:08 PM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#131

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:17pm

Aw, not for stupidity. It's hard to tell that they're all Ramin, especially if you don't know that he played Raoul, the Phantom, and Daddy Daae.

He's played a gazillion huge ALW and/or Cameron Mackintosh roles. Joe Gillis, Chris Scott, Enjolras, Simon, Marius, Raoul, the Phantom...
Updated On: 10/10/09 at 07:17 PM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#132

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:39pm

Ramin played Christine's father in the movie and now he's playing the Phantom? I didn't know that. That's slightly icky.
Updated On: 10/11/09 at 07:39 PM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#133

Posted: 10/10/09 at 7:42pm

Well. He had a tiny cameo as her dad (he was playing Raoul in the West End at the time). To quote Ramin, his name in the credits had more screen time than he did, LOL.

Updated On: 10/10/09 at 07:42 PM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#134

Posted: 10/10/09 at 9:54pm

Yeah, his "playing" the role is only as a still photograph. I don't think there was actually any scene with him in it.

That is pretty funny though.


"It's Phantom meets Hamlet... Phamlet!"

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#135

Posted: 10/10/09 at 10:15pm

In addition to the photo, there's a really short (and silent) flashback scene where it's all blurry and he's lying in a bed, talking to young Christine. (It's what plays as Christine is telling Meg what her dad told her as he was dying, about being protected by an angel.)


My Phantom DVD was nearby, so I popped it in my laptop real quick. Ramin has a grand total of seven seconds of screen time, LOL.

Updated On: 10/10/09 at 10:15 PM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#136

Posted: 10/10/09 at 10:37pm

The dad is now the Phantom, huh? Daddy issues ahoy!

(With apologies to Cleolinda: http://community.livejournal.com/m15m/6231.html )

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#137

Posted: 10/10/09 at 10:40pm

You were once
My dad and best friend...
But now you're dead
And I've got daddy issues.

:'(


Cleolinda's parody is bril, but I do think Phantom of the Opera Abridged is funnier. I was dying with laughter the first time I read it.

Updated On: 10/11/09 at 10:40 PM

re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#138

Posted: 10/10/09 at 11:15pm

Isn't he also in the movie when Christine's in the cemetary and her father's ghost like plays the violin? Or am I totally not remembering this right?


Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#139

Posted: 10/11/09 at 12:34am

Er, nope... There's the bit where Christine's on her way to the cemetery, and there's a violin playing, but it's just the background music. (And it's also in the stage show, so nothing new there.)

That would be cool if there were a Daddy Daae ghost, though.

Updated On: 10/11/09 at 12:34 AM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#140

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:10am

About the whole Phantom being the daddy thing -- I'm thinking he got her pregnant while she was sleeping. There is that awquard lyric... "In sleep he sang to me. In dreams he came."

Too much?

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#141

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:14am

That would be one DEEP sleep, LOL.

Something tells me ALW isn't going to give us an explanation. He'll leave us to believe what we want to believe about Gusty's conception, even though every possibility cheapens the Phantom's character.

I'm just gonna believe that it's magic and he got her pregnant by kissing her. IT WAS PHANTOM MAGIC.


OR maybe, since Raoul got his parts shot off (in the book at least), Christine wanted kids and went to a sperm bank and just HAPPENED to choose the right stuff. Yes. That's what happened.

If the Phantom works out in his spare time, who's to say that he doesn't also donate sperm in his spare time? Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:14 AM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#142

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:24am

Like immaculate conception? Creepy.

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#143

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:27am

If the Phantom can make people sound like toads and lower portcullises with a wave of his hands, he can impregnate people with kisses. :) Like I said, he's MAGIC.

He can do anything he wants to except remove his disfigurement, apparently. Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:27 AM

re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#144

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:37am

You want to know what I think? He's Raoul's son. Every other possibility doesn't make sense. And if it does, it cheapens the Phantom's character like somebody else said. If he's Raoul's son, it creates another complication for Phantom and Christine ever being together at all.


Who can explain it, who can tell you why? Fools give you reasons, wise men never try -South Pacific
Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:37 AM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#145

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:39am

I hope this show takes place on the Starship Enterprise complete with a Jason X-esque type Phantom.

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#146

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:41am

But if he's Raoul's son, then the only purpose he serves in the story is, as you said, to make it so Erik and Christine can't be together. But that would be pointless. They already can't be together, since, y'know, Christine is sort of married to Raoul.

Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:41 AM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#147

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:43am

I hope this show takes place on the Starship Enterprise complete with a Jason X-esque type Phantom.

And I hope Constantine Rousouli plays the guy that just stands stage left for the entire show... naked.
Updated On: 10/11/09 at 01:43 AM

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#148

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:44am

Maybe the twist is that Christine's son is Constantine Rousouli's.

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re: LOVE NEVER DIES LIVE. CD March 2010. Broadway November 2010. SAMPLE TRA#149

Posted: 10/11/09 at 1:46am

That's good theatre right there.


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