Lin-Manuel and The Little Mermaid- Page 2

[gypsy101]

Posted: 8/16/16 at 4:55pm

wow this news is shocking and strange to me. I'm confused: will Miranda be writing the lyrics to Menken's music or will he be writing songs separately from Menken? and if the songs are being written separately will Glenn Slater return or will any of the stage version's songs be retained? (most of the stage songs weren't up to Menken's standard in my opinion) i want answers!

[10086sunset]

Posted: 8/16/16 at 5:35pm

Miranda and Disney has certainly become very close lately...

 

 

[willep]

Posted: 8/16/16 at 5:37pm

Is this a different film than the Chloe Grace Moretz Little Mermaid? I'm pretty sure she has said hers isn't a musical.

[¿Macavity?]

Posted: 8/16/16 at 5:50pm

gypsy101 said: "wow this news is shocking and strange to me. I'm confused: will Miranda be writing the lyrics to Menken's music or will he be writing songs separately from Menken? and if the songs are being written separately will Glenn Slater return or will any of the stage version's songs be retained? (most of the stage songs weren't up to Menken's standard in my opinion) i want answers!

 

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I do too! I also agree that most of the new songs were "meh", but I really liked Poor Unfortunate Souls' reprise.

[¿Macavity?]

Posted: 8/16/16 at 5:50pm

Whoops, double post.

Updated On: 8/16/16 at 05:50 PM

[RW3]

Posted: 8/16/16 at 5:51pm

willep said: "Is this a different film than the Chloe Grace Moretz Little Mermaid? I'm pretty sure she has said hers isn't a musical.


Yes, you are correct. That one was going to be directed by Sofia Coppola. The film is also going to be released by Warner Bros, I believe. Additionally, that one was going for more of the traditional Hans Christian Anderson approach. 

 

[RW3]

Posted: 8/16/16 at 6:03pm

RW3 said: "willep said: "Is this a different film than the Chloe Grace Moretz Little Mermaid? I'm pretty sure she has said hers isn't a musical.


Yes, you are correct. That one was going to be directed by Sofia Coppola. The film is also going to be released by Warner Bros, I believe. Additionally, that one was going for more of the traditional Hans Christian Anderson approach. 

Nevermind, it is at Universal. 

 

 

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[Tag]

Posted: 8/17/16 at 1:06am

If only the Ashman estate could put a stop to this.

[Mrtrobz]

Posted: 8/17/16 at 7:43am

After Jungle Book I have no doubt this will be visually stunning and I'm all for more live action musical films. Don't mind them ditching the musical songs from the stage show because they were pretty crappy aside from   Her Voice.

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 8/17/16 at 6:20pm

Reactions in order...

Yay! My wish for a Menken/Miranda collaboration has been granted!

Oh? The Little Mermaid? What do they need to add to that story? I haven't really loved any of Disney's recent live action fairy tales (Maleficent, Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, etc.)

At least it's not Glenn Slater.

[SamIAm]

Posted: 8/17/16 at 6:43pm

This will certainly be done with a lot of CGI. Live action simply meaning that they will use real actors. As for the music and story, we will see what they have in mind. Miranda is a hot property right now and he already has a relationship with Disney for the new Mary Poppins film so this seems to make sense as a property they would consider together. We can only wait and see what they will do to update the story without losing what everyone loves about the original. If Miranda is a big fan, then I assume he will approach the project with respect. 

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 8/17/16 at 8:04pm

Disney hasn't used real sets in their movies like this in years right??

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 8/17/16 at 8:25pm

10086sunset said: "Miranda and Disney has certainly become very close lately..."

Only time will tell when Miranda writes the Star Wars musical 

[degrassifan]

Posted: 8/18/16 at 3:30pm

Mr. Nowack said: "Disney hasn't used real sets in their movies like this in years right??

 

Cinderella used mostly real sets. 

 

[Oak2]

Posted: 8/18/16 at 4:05pm

As much as the deluge in live-action remakes is a bit annoying, I will admit that their recent Jungle Book movie was fantastic, and I am liking what I've seen so far of their Beauty and the Beast. So I'll still remain optimistic for this. And I'll also look forward to see what else LMM does for the Mouse, since it seems he's going to continue working with them, as this is already the third such project we know of he's doing for them, after Moana and Mary Poppins Returns.

[Valentina3]

Posted: 8/18/16 at 5:01pm

It almost feels like we are looking for a reason to disagree with him being part of this. Lin has not disappointed yet with any of the projects he's been associated with, and is a commercially reliable "product" at this point in his career. From an artistic standpoint, I don't know another current musical theater artist who is as reverential in his work as he is. And as he established with several numbers in Hamilton (and hopefully Moana), hip-hop is his preferred genre but far from being the only thing he's good at which is what several of above assumptions are based on.

Relax. Wait for the product to arrive. For all you know, it could be "everything you ever wanted".

[Fan123]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 4:28am

I actually like the best songs from the TLM stage adaptation much more than the best songs from BATB onstage, the latter of which I think is highly overrated. But hey, more Mermaid songs = good. If they turn out to be terrible, which seems unlikely, we'll always have the originals.

And anyway, imagine how we all would have been reacting if this board existed in the 80s and information was trickling out from Hollywood about the original Disney film... we'd all be horrified that calypso music and a pompous crab sidekick etc were being shoehorned into the tragic tale.

[Dancingthrulife2]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 4:52am

ACL2006 said: "so will Under The Sea be turned into a rap song now?? What part will Lin play?? Sebastian??

 

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I'm not sure why you are left with the impression that Lin can ONLY do rap. Lin, in fact, can also write marvelous traditional show tunes . Breathe from In the Heights has been one of my favorite songs that sounds nothing like what you would call "rap."

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 5:17am

I find it especially funny as Lin has proven himself to be one of the Broadway composers that can actually write in quite a variety of genres, yet is one of the few to be continually pigeonholed.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 8:29am

aaaaaa15 said: "I find it especially funny as Lin has proven himself to be one of the Broadway composers that can actually write in quite a variety of genres, yet is one of the few to be continually pigeonholed. "

 

That's quite a statement considering he's only worked on three musicals thus far, two of which are very similar in structure, tone, style and use. 

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 8:46am

Okay. I stand by it.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 9:05am

He should probably write more than two and a half musical scores, much of which is actually done by LMM ghostwriter Alex Lacamoire, before receiving such praise but I guess his loyal-to-a-fault fans like you are willing to die by their own swords. Good luck.

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 9:11am

Not dying by anything nor really trying to praise him. Just stating a fact (he can write in a variety of genres) which leads me to believe he shouldn't be pigeonholed as only being able or willing to write hip-hop as posts on this thread suggested.

[Valentina3]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 10:08am

Liza's Headband said: "He should probably write more than two and a half musical scores, much of which is actually done by LMM ghostwriter Alex Lacamoire, before receiving such praise but I guess his loyal-to-a-fault fans like you are willing to die by their own swords. Good luck."

 

Do you understand the difference between orchestrations and music, Liza? Lin and Alex have never been cagey about what each other's contributions have been to In The Heights or Hamilton. Alex has done orchestrations, which is a huge part of the score. He is, by no means, a "ghostwriter". By your definition, Jonathan Tunick was the ghostwriter for Follies.

You also hit a point which can be presented in a very different way. He's written ONLY two-and-a-half musicals. And both of them had a healthy mix of hip hop and other genres. He's equally accomplished IMHO to do standard musical theater, but he chooses to mix it up a little. He's a brilliant lyricist and his use of motifs rival Stephen Schwartz. I don't know what he could do to not be pigeon-holed. I'm not a die-hard fan, and I do think he has faults. But not being versatile is NOT one of them.

 

[gypsy101]

Posted: 8/19/16 at 10:23am

Liza's Headband said: "He should probably write more than two and a half musical scores, much of which is actually done by LMM ghostwriter Alex Lacamoire, before receiving such praise but I guess his loyal-to-a-fault fans like you are willing to die by their own swords. Good luck."

Before receiving such praise? the man already has 3 Tonys, an Emmy, 2 Grammys, the Pulitzer Prize (and also is a certified Genius). the praise has already occurred whether you like it or not.

Valentina, I think when he said Lacamoire is a ghostwriter it has to do with Miranda being upfront about not being able to notate (or at least not well, in his opinion) and I'm pretty sure Lacamoire does all of his notating for him (probably why every song in both Heights' and Hamilton's vocal score credit him with "arrangement" outright). I've also heard tell that Lin only writes the melodies for his songs and Lacamoire writes all the harmony and underscore, in which case that's much closer to --hell it basically is-- ghostwriting. If it's true.

Updated On: 8/19/16 at 10:23 AM