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MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

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#1

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

Would like to hear opinions on why we hear uproar when a high school decides to cancel production of a certain musical/play because of "objectionable content" but we don't hear a lot of outrage when Jr/School Editions of shows cut out language/contact from dialogue and songs? Is it simply because the high school is an "authority/government" figure censoring creativity? If so, what makes it ok for MTI to do it but not a Principle or Superintendent of Schools? Also, when MTI or others offer Jr/School Editions, who is doing the cutting? Is it the author or is it someone in an editor's office at the licensing company? Sent out in hopes of real dialogue instead of the pissy bullying we get in some of the threads. Thanks for your thoughts on this.

#3

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

1 ^ yes, there are totally done with permission and often WITH ACTUAL COLLABORATION.

2. The juniors aren't always cut for content, it is also and mainly for time.


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#4

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

Yep. Exactly.

The school editions are changed with author permission and/or collaboration. The Junior shows have a different intent entirely as they are written for younger performers (also with permission/collaboration). In at least one case (Seussical JR), I think it's actually a BETTER structured show in the JR edition.

An administration cutting things is an entirely different matter though I do understand their side of it in certain circumstances. I think it's important for directors to gauge the school and community before picking a show. And if they pick a controversial show, they better have a plan for dealing with it appropriately.

#5

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

Okay. Time for some facts....

1.) All changes and revisions are approved by the authors (or authors' estates) during the workshopping and developmental phase.

2.) A theatrical agency/company, independent of MTI, is contracted to oversee the creation & implementation of said changes.

3.) Those changes are then workshopped with youth performers, which the authors (or authors' estate reps) and rights holders (i.e. Disney, Macintosh, Dreamworks, etc.) attend, and there you have it.

There is a massive difference between a licensor contracting youth theatre experts to create authorized adaptations and someone completely unassociated with the theatrical property making unauthorized changes. I mean... really??? Come on, people.

#7

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

OK - I think I have my answer and it's starting to get testy so thanks. I'm going to see a Legally Blonde Jr and I wanted to see running time. I looked thru the synopsis and it gave a list of some of the songs cut. While some don't have a content issue, they also cut "Gay or European" and "Positive." Then I looked at the Rent School Edition write up - which has many cuts based on language/content. I guess my head whirls around the fact that if authors and the theater community feel it's ok for MTI to say certain things are fine to cut for "youth performers," why the outrage when school officials do the same thing? I'm not standing up for school districts who censor; just trying to wrap my brain around the logic.

#9

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

It's not always the principle/superintendent that makes cuts. It could the director of the theatre if it's an organization that not affiliated with a school.


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#10

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

Ranger Tom said: " I guess my head whirls around the fact that if authors and the theater community feel it's ok for MTI to say certain things are fine to cut for "youth performers," why the outrage when school officials do the same thing? I'm not standing up for school districts who censor; just trying to wrap my brain around the logic.

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Again, the logic is that the authors or the estate of the authors are involved when changes are made for school performers. It isn't MTI that makes the cuts or changes, it is the authors or their legal representatives that are doing it. If Stephen Sondheim wants to change his own lyrics to make them kid friendly, then there is nothing wrong with that. If Principal Doe wants the lyrics changed by Director Joe, then its a problem. Director Joe is not the author. Director Joe has no right to change anything written in that libretto. If the author is deceased, MTI still does not make any changes; instead a representative of the estate of the author will do the appropriate research to determine what cuts or changes (if any) are appropriate to make. If Director Joe needs to make changes then he is able to contact MTI who will then get in touch with the Author or the Estate of a late author and discuss the requested changes on his behalf. Usually, the author says no to such requests. Only the author or the estate of a late author has the right to make these changes, not MTI, and not Director Joe, or principal Doe. It is all about who is making the changes, and who has the right to do so.

I don't mean to sound snarky, I just don't understand where your confusion is. The logic seems quite logical to me.

#11

MTI Jr/School Edition Cuts vs. School Principle/Superintendent Cuts

Who's getting testy? You because no one is in agreement with you?


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