Male equivalent to "Rose's Turn"
Male equivalent to "Rose's Turn"
#1Male equivalent to "Rose's Turn"
Posted: 4/4/13 at 2:26amHello, I am absolutely obsessed with "Gypsy" (especially Bernadette and Patti) and I am wondering what other song from a musical would be the equivalent to "Rose's Turn" for a male. I'm looking for an emotional journey with many changes in style of the music. Thank you so much!
brettarnett
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chewy5000
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/1/09
#4Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 3:08am
Who needs an equivalent!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZLqc6LDnyk
#5Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 3:14am
"All of My Life," Phil Silvers' eleven o'clock number from Do Re Mi, also written by Jule Styne. Not quite the same (and not quite as good) but the similarities have often been noted.
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Updated On: 4/4/13 at 03:14 AM
Tink2
Stand-by Joined: 8/7/08
#7Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 6:12amIs Anybody There? (1776)
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#9Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 7:34am
Sadly, there isn't one trust me I've tried to find it before.
Judas death and Gethsemane, I think are the closest
What have I done
Who am I
Being Alive
mamaleh
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/11/04
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#11Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 7:57am
In addition to "All of My LIfe" as NoName noted, I'd suggest "Funny" from City of Angels, which is similarly a male psych. breakdown aria. Of course, both men, like Rose, are in show business and have abandonment issues.
Updated On: 4/4/13 at 07:57 AM
#12Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 8:02am
Betrayed - The Producers
Live, Laugh, Love - Follies
#13Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 8:42am
Sweeney Todd's "Epiphany" was the first thing that came to mind, for me... for showing a so clearly-deranged character's mental state so profoundly, energetically, and disturbingly.
I'll also second "Is Anybody There?" as a tremendous work-out for an actor, certainly less mental-instability in that one but an emotional freight train of determination, pride, and commitment(!)
And yes, "Soliloquy" from Carousel is a pretty unmatched epic, though it's mood swings and emotional tones are more drawn out and paced, it is unquestionably an epic journey.
Sadly, "The Ballad of Booth" from Assassins isn't a solo, because it's content is right up there with "Rose's Turn," but it's form makes it an imperfect equal.
And, if I may be unconventional, "Work the Wound" from Passing Strange, at least how Stew did it, was a heck of an emotional work out.
morosco
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/10/04
#14Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:37am
Meditation from SHENANDOAH
Betrayed from THE PRODUCERS
morosco
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/10/04
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#17Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:47am
Betrayed from The Producers seems really close. It has a ton of style changes, reflects on everything that has happened in the character's life, and has the total disconnect from reality in the childhood flashback that isn't even his own.
Funny from City of Angels is made a better tonal match but it doesn't have the style shifts you're looking for.
Emma White
Featured Actor Joined: 2/11/13
#18Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:58am
I'm going with Epiphany from Sweeney Todd
Because it has constant changes in musical style, and it is definitely an emotional journey that displays deep emotional disturbance.
#19Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 10:38am"Betrayed" in the Producers originally included a deliberate "Rose's Turn" bridge- the circulated "workshop score" of the show which many theatre collectors have includes that part of the song still.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#20Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 10:39amJavert’s Suicide from Les Miserables
#21Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:01am
Epiphany, Betrayed, I Am What I Am.
MAYBE if done correctly: You Were Always On My Mind from PRISCILLA.
#22Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:19amGeorge Hearn singing EPIPHANY from SWEENEY TODD...the closest song to ROSE'S TURN...and what a coincidence also written by SONDHEIM...both music and lyrics for EPIPHANY of course
#23Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:55am
To me, Epiphany is closer to Everything's Coming Up Roses than it is to Rose's Turn. It's a pivotal point in the show where the protagonist shifts gears and changes focus. Show-stopping, yes. Electrifying, yes.
But Rose's Turn is at the end of the show (with only a small coda resolution remaining). It's the point where the character explodes, looking back on the whole "story," and asking, "Was it worth it?"
That's why I said "Is Anybody There?" from 1776.
Many of these other suggestions are show-stoppers, no question. But reaching the end of the line and questioning your purpose is what "Rose's Turn" and "Is Anybody There?" are all about.
I would agree with a few others, like Betrayed (obviously) and I Can't Make This Movie (Nine).
But not every solo show-stopper is a Rose's Turn moment.
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John Adams
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/1/13
#24Male equivalent to
Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:14pm
Soliloquy, Epiphany and Is Anybody There? are all excellent options. I'd also add Who's The Man? and even its replacement song, The Glory of Me from The Witches of Eastwick.
Although both these Witches... numbers are a little more egocentric, and neither really takes the dramatic journey of Rose's Turn, they share a similar, brassy musical style (especially Who's The Man?).
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