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Male equivalent to "Rose's Turn"

Male equivalent to "Rose's Turn"

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Male equivalent to "Rose's Turn"#1

Posted: 4/4/13 at 2:26am

Hello, I am absolutely obsessed with "Gypsy" (especially Bernadette and Patti) and I am wondering what other song from a musical would be the equivalent to "Rose's Turn" for a male. I'm looking for an emotional journey with many changes in style of the music. Thank you so much!

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Male equivalent to #2

Posted: 4/4/13 at 2:31am

Soliloquy from Carousel.


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Male equivalent to #2

Posted: 4/4/13 at 2:42am

my initial thought was being alive

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Male equivalent to #3

Posted: 4/4/13 at 2:50am

Epiphany?

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Male equivalent to #4

Posted: 4/4/13 at 3:08am

Who needs an equivalent!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZLqc6LDnyk

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Male equivalent to #5

Posted: 4/4/13 at 3:14am

"All of My Life," Phil Silvers' eleven o'clock number from Do Re Mi, also written by Jule Styne. Not quite the same (and not quite as good) but the similarities have often been noted.

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Updated On: 4/4/13 at 03:14 AM

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Male equivalent to #6

Posted: 4/4/13 at 5:13am

Impossible Dream
Epiphany
Gethsemane
I Am What I AM

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Male equivalent to #7

Posted: 4/4/13 at 6:12am

Is Anybody There? (1776)


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Male equivalent to #8

Posted: 4/4/13 at 6:31am

Promises, Promises - Promises, Promises

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Male equivalent to #9

Posted: 4/4/13 at 7:34am

Sadly, there isn't one trust me I've tried to find it before.

Judas death and Gethsemane, I think are the closest
What have I done
Who am I
Being Alive

Male equivalent to #10

Posted: 4/4/13 at 7:38am

Once Before I Go (The Boy from Oz)

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Male equivalent to #11

Posted: 4/4/13 at 7:57am

In addition to "All of My LIfe" as NoName noted, I'd suggest "Funny" from City of Angels, which is similarly a male psych. breakdown aria. Of course, both men, like Rose, are in show business and have abandonment issues.

Updated On: 4/4/13 at 07:57 AM

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Male equivalent to #12

Posted: 4/4/13 at 8:02am

Betrayed - The Producers
Live, Laugh, Love - Follies


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Male equivalent to #13

Posted: 4/4/13 at 8:42am

Sweeney Todd's "Epiphany" was the first thing that came to mind, for me... for showing a so clearly-deranged character's mental state so profoundly, energetically, and disturbingly.

I'll also second "Is Anybody There?" as a tremendous work-out for an actor, certainly less mental-instability in that one but an emotional freight train of determination, pride, and commitment(!)

And yes, "Soliloquy" from Carousel is a pretty unmatched epic, though it's mood swings and emotional tones are more drawn out and paced, it is unquestionably an epic journey.

Sadly, "The Ballad of Booth" from Assassins isn't a solo, because it's content is right up there with "Rose's Turn," but it's form makes it an imperfect equal.

And, if I may be unconventional, "Work the Wound" from Passing Strange, at least how Stew did it, was a heck of an emotional work out.


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Male equivalent to #14

Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:37am

Meditation from SHENANDOAH
Betrayed from THE PRODUCERS

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Male equivalent to #15

Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:38am

Electricity... Billy elliot

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Male equivalent to #16

Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:42am

I Can't Make This Movie from NINE

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Male equivalent to #17

Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:47am

Betrayed from The Producers seems really close. It has a ton of style changes, reflects on everything that has happened in the character's life, and has the total disconnect from reality in the childhood flashback that isn't even his own.

Funny from City of Angels is made a better tonal match but it doesn't have the style shifts you're looking for.

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Male equivalent to #18

Posted: 4/4/13 at 9:58am

I'm going with Epiphany from Sweeney Todd

Because it has constant changes in musical style, and it is definitely an emotional journey that displays deep emotional disturbance.


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Male equivalent to #19

Posted: 4/4/13 at 10:38am

"Betrayed" in the Producers originally included a deliberate "Rose's Turn" bridge- the circulated "workshop score" of the show which many theatre collectors have includes that part of the song still.

Male equivalent to #20

Posted: 4/4/13 at 10:39am

Javert’s Suicide from Les Miserables


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Male equivalent to #21

Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:01am

Epiphany, Betrayed, I Am What I Am.

MAYBE if done correctly: You Were Always On My Mind from PRISCILLA.


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Male equivalent to #22

Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:19am

George Hearn singing EPIPHANY from SWEENEY TODD...the closest song to ROSE'S TURN...and what a coincidence also written by SONDHEIM...both music and lyrics for EPIPHANY of course

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Male equivalent to #23

Posted: 4/4/13 at 11:55am

To me, Epiphany is closer to Everything's Coming Up Roses than it is to Rose's Turn. It's a pivotal point in the show where the protagonist shifts gears and changes focus. Show-stopping, yes. Electrifying, yes.

But Rose's Turn is at the end of the show (with only a small coda resolution remaining). It's the point where the character explodes, looking back on the whole "story," and asking, "Was it worth it?"

That's why I said "Is Anybody There?" from 1776.

Many of these other suggestions are show-stoppers, no question. But reaching the end of the line and questioning your purpose is what "Rose's Turn" and "Is Anybody There?" are all about.

I would agree with a few others, like Betrayed (obviously) and I Can't Make This Movie (Nine).

But not every solo show-stopper is a Rose's Turn moment.


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Male equivalent to #24

Posted: 4/4/13 at 12:14pm

Soliloquy, Epiphany and Is Anybody There? are all excellent options. I'd also add Who's The Man? and even its replacement song, The Glory of Me from The Witches of Eastwick.

Although both these Witches... numbers are a little more egocentric, and neither really takes the dramatic journey of Rose's Turn, they share a similar, brassy musical style (especially Who's The Man?).


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