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NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#150NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/23/24 at 8:25pm
> nowhere yet near the glory days
you do realize that the phrase 'glory days' has been intended to suggest a modicum of irony at least since Bruce Springsteen sang about it -- they're in fact never as glorious as we remember them to be ...
the problems are real, but in origin they're at least as national as they are local. and the data do suggest they're not nearly as bad as the rag that precipitated this thread needs us to believe.
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#151NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/23/24 at 8:37pm
No, sincerely show the data showing these large spikes. Yes crime did increase with the pandemic and is also receding despite the migrants coming to the city. There never WERE any "Glory Days", you're living in a fantasy! This is a major Metropolitan area that used to see 2000, 1500, 800 murders in a year. It was over 1000 as recently as 1995. So why don't YOU tell me exactly what years were the "Glory Days" you seem to think existed that you don't consider us living in now comparatively?
MezzoDiva47
Understudy Joined: 1/8/24
#152NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/23/24 at 9:58pm
lol
ppl r so easily triggered on here
for example 10 years ago there were only 333 homicides in NYC
when the pandemic hit things took a turn for the worse
now things have begun to recover but the entire point is that the recovery is painfully slow
why is this such a difficult concept to accept
currently nyc is neither a complete hellscape nor is it barbie land
those of you who are hyper defensive about criticism of nyc need to have a reality check
your fantasy of a record-low-crime new york city does not exist in 2024
and murders are not the only metric of a safe city
it is painfully obvious to those who open their eyes that stretches such as the 8th avenue corridor are worse than they were in the (suddenly controversial term) ‘glory days’
which by the way is merely a figure of speech
i do not pretend that there was some mythical stretch of years where nyc was ever the perfect city
but the amount of hand-wringing over an article which dares to point out (accurately) certain deficiencies on our sidewalks and streets is striking and also quite entertaining
so move out of your parents’ basements and find something other than a chat board to clutch your pearls about
have a nice day
gibsons2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/19
#153NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/23/24 at 10:02pm
TheatreFan4 said: "MezzoDiva47 said: "wow
ppl need to get a grip on here
new york city is less safe today than it was ten years ago and even less safe compared to twenty years ago
"
Surely you can back that up with some statistics and not just a "feeling" right? Oh... you mean you can't? Okay..."
Actually, post 9/11 NYC was the safest place to be and had a very low crime rate for about a year after the attack. I moved to NYC around that time and the city felt very safe back then. So yeah, two decades ago sounds about right. It was a time of unity among New Yorkers and I've heard stories of unmatched hospitality towards them by other states where they traveled post 9/11. Right now national crises and tragedies only seem to divide us.
#154NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/23/24 at 10:41pm
gibsons2 said: "TheatreFan4 said: "MezzoDiva47 said: "wow
ppl need to get a grip on here
new york city is less safe today than it was ten years ago and even less safe compared to twenty years ago
"
Surely you can back that up with some statistics and not just a "feeling" right? Oh... you mean you can't? Okay..."
Actually, post 9/11 NYC was the safest place to be and had a very low crime rate for about a year after the attack. I moved to NYC around that time and the city felt very safe back then. So yeah, two decades ago sounds about right. It was a time of unity among New Yorkers and I've heard stories of unmatched hospitality towards them by other states where they traveled post 9/11. Right now national crises and tragedies only seem to divide us."
Again with the anecdotes about violent crime just completely making **** up.
#155NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/23/24 at 11:41pm
TheatreFan4 said: "It is INSANE that we're complaining about the smell of weed and hearing salsa music. Like there are a thousand other smells that are actually gross in this city and you want to focus on weed? Something that is fully100% legal in the state to be enjoying and actually doesn't smell bad, you just hold racist/classist views about it."
Well maybe you enjoy the smell of weed, but I don't when walking through the streets. And I am a social smoker.
Day after day I walked up Broadway to my theaters through clouds of it. I reeked of it when I got to work, sometimes walking into meetings, and all day long when the lobby door opened it filled the lobby and the box office. So no, it is not Insane to complain about it. And the legal thing is no good argument. It went legal and manners and respect for people went out the door. And as far as the racist view of it, I am a black man and while walking up Broadway, and elsewhere, it was predominantly black people openly smoking it. That's not racist, that is what is happening. I now live in Colorado where it is legal and you don't walk down the street with the smell of weed everywhere.
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MezzoDiva47
Understudy Joined: 1/8/24
#156NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/23/24 at 11:49pm
face it, TheatreFan4, you took the blue pill when you should have taken the red pill
#157NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/24/24 at 11:26am
MezzoDiva47 said: "while the situation has improved it is nowhere yet near the glory days from a couple of decades ago"
The low-point in crime wasn't a couple of decades ago; it was in the mid- to late-2010s, during the de Blasio administration.
BorisTomashevsky
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
#158NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/24/24 at 11:54am
Sounds like TheatreFan4 is a theatre fan in Broadway-On-Demand terms only. No one who’s been here in person could be so adamant that things are fInE.
MezzA101
Broadway Star Joined: 3/29/23
#159NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/24/24 at 5:00pm
East Village stabbing at 14th Street kills man – NBC New York
See the statement by the city councilman in the article. Again, the question is not one of statistics. Rather, what are people reading and hearing about NYC when planning their leisure time.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/east-village-stabbing-14th-street/5533964/
MezzA101
Broadway Star Joined: 3/29/23
#160NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/24/24 at 5:16pm
Mayhem in the East Village: Murder suspect booked as pols denounce conditions of ‘open air drug market’ | amNewYork
https://www.amny.com/news/east-village-stabbing-spree-suspect-charged/
Huss417
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#161NYP: Broadway sings New York’s blues as crime, costs slow post-COVID comeback
Posted: 6/24/24 at 5:23pm
I guess next in this thread we will be posting crimes in the Tri-State Area.
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