Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
jaxel614
Featured Actor Joined: 4/12/09
#1Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:06pmDoes anyone think that Next to Normal could throw off Billy Elliot and take home the big awards at the Tony's this year? Tell me what you think
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#2re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:07pmI think there are way too many threads today about the Tony awards.
WiCkEDrOcKS
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/13/04
#2re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:07pm
I agree with Phyllis.
And, sadly, no. BILLY has it in the bag.
Updated On: 5/5/09 at 05:07 PM
#3re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:08pmI also think BILLY should and will win, but there was a huge upset in 2004, so I guess no one is ever "safe" or "a lock."
#4re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:09pmAvenue Q deserved to win, no doubt about it.
I'm a professional. Whenever something goes wrong on stage, I know how to handle it so no one ever remembers. I flash my %#$&.
"Jayne just sat there while Gina flailed around the stage like an idiot."
WishingOnlyWounds2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/25/08
#5re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:10pmAfter previous years... nothing will surprise me anymore so I think 'next to normal' could win, which would make me really happy!
2008: Feb. 18- Rent, Feb. 19- Curtains, April 18- Xanadu, April 22- Wicked, April 26- Legally Blonde, May 31- Wicked, June 13- The Little Mermaid, June 28- Wicked and Young Frankenstein, July 2- The Little Mermaid, July 6- A Chorus Line and Legally Blonde, August 16- Xanadu, September 13- Legally Blonde and 13, September 28- Xanadu and Spring Awakening, Oct. 12-GYPSY and [title of show], Oct. 19- Hairspray & Legally Blonde, Nov. 9- Wicked and 13, Dec. 14-13, Dec. 26- Billy Elliot, 2009: Jan 1- Shrek, Jan 2- 13 and Wicked, Jan 4- 13, Feb 17- In The Heights, Feb 19- Billy Elliot, Feb 22- Sweeney Todd (tour), March 28- Mary Poppins, April 4- Mamma Mia!, April 15- Jersey Boys (on tour), April 25- next to normal & 9 to 5
May 1- Billy Elliot, May 3- Spelling Bee (tour), May 8- Chicago, May 21- Wicked, June 6- Everyday Rapture, June 23- The Wiz, June 25- Hair July 15- Shrek, August 9- Wicked, September 7- Rock of Ages, October 11- Next To Normal, October 23- The Marvelous Wonderettes, November 7- Ragtime November 29- Dreamgirls, December 25- Billy Elliot, December 30- Finian's Rainbow, 2010: January 9- Bye Bye Birdie, January 16- Memphis February 17- The Phantom of The Opera, February 18- God of Carnage, March 7- Billy Elliot, March 31- American Idiot
jaxel614
Featured Actor Joined: 4/12/09
#6re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:11pmYeah, I think Avenue Q was overall a better show deserving the win.
WiCkEDrOcKS
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/13/04
#7re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:12pmWell, realistically, any of the four nominees COULD win. But BILLY is a touring producer's dream. NEXT TO NORMAL is a tough sell in New York; could you imagine how it would sell in the middle of nowhere? BILLY will win the Tony, I can say with 99.99% certainty.
#8re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:13pm
BILLY will win.
NEXT TO NORMAL will close by the end of July.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#9re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:13pmIt just makes me mad because Billy doesn't need to win one Tony at all to be successful. Come on, it made a million in its first week in previews. N2N needs the Tony in order to stay open.
I'm a professional. Whenever something goes wrong on stage, I know how to handle it so no one ever remembers. I flash my %#$&.
"Jayne just sat there while Gina flailed around the stage like an idiot."
#10re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:16pm
"It just makes me mad because Billy doesn't need to win one Tony at all to be successful. Come on, it made a million in its first week in previews. N2N needs the Tony in order to stay open."
BILLY's Tony win would help already excellent ticket sales. However, I'm not sure a win for NEXT TO NORMAL would boost ticket sales *that* much, since it isn't selling as well as it should right now after the across the board RAVE reviews. I could be wrong though...just an observation.
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#11re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:16pmIt only upset the WICKED fans. The difference is that both BILLY and N2N are worthy titles.
WishingOnlyWounds2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/25/08
#12re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:17pm
Well... Wicked was making a ton of money and was the one with the better word of mouth. Yet, it lost.
Spring Awakening was the one harder to sell but had a huge fan base... and it won.
WithoutATrace, the N2N reviews were just posted several days ago, give it time.
2008: Feb. 18- Rent, Feb. 19- Curtains, April 18- Xanadu, April 22- Wicked, April 26- Legally Blonde, May 31- Wicked, June 13- The Little Mermaid, June 28- Wicked and Young Frankenstein, July 2- The Little Mermaid, July 6- A Chorus Line and Legally Blonde, August 16- Xanadu, September 13- Legally Blonde and 13, September 28- Xanadu and Spring Awakening, Oct. 12-GYPSY and [title of show], Oct. 19- Hairspray & Legally Blonde, Nov. 9- Wicked and 13, Dec. 14-13, Dec. 26- Billy Elliot, 2009: Jan 1- Shrek, Jan 2- 13 and Wicked, Jan 4- 13, Feb 17- In The Heights, Feb 19- Billy Elliot, Feb 22- Sweeney Todd (tour), March 28- Mary Poppins, April 4- Mamma Mia!, April 15- Jersey Boys (on tour), April 25- next to normal & 9 to 5
May 1- Billy Elliot, May 3- Spelling Bee (tour), May 8- Chicago, May 21- Wicked, June 6- Everyday Rapture, June 23- The Wiz, June 25- Hair July 15- Shrek, August 9- Wicked, September 7- Rock of Ages, October 11- Next To Normal, October 23- The Marvelous Wonderettes, November 7- Ragtime November 29- Dreamgirls, December 25- Billy Elliot, December 30- Finian's Rainbow, 2010: January 9- Bye Bye Birdie, January 16- Memphis February 17- The Phantom of The Opera, February 18- God of Carnage, March 7- Billy Elliot, March 31- American Idiot
Updated On: 5/5/09 at 05:17 PM
#13re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:22pm
The Next to Normal (not that hard to type it out...) reviews we're posted about three weeks ago WishingOnlyWounds2.
I love the show, but I can't see the ticket sales ever reaching the level of many other Tony nominees.
"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
heo1128
Broadway Star Joined: 7/9/08
#14re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:22pm
It kind of bugs me that some people think N2N deserves the Tony because it needs it to survive. The Tonys aren't given out on the basis of who would profit the most from a fancy award, they should be given out on artistic merit.
But then again, Idina Menzel won over Tonya Pinkins.
WishingOnlyWounds2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/25/08
#15re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:24pmI saw the show on Saturday, April 25th... not a review is sight. When I went back to the city on Friday, reviews were up. Also, I typed the title out in an earlier post.
2008: Feb. 18- Rent, Feb. 19- Curtains, April 18- Xanadu, April 22- Wicked, April 26- Legally Blonde, May 31- Wicked, June 13- The Little Mermaid, June 28- Wicked and Young Frankenstein, July 2- The Little Mermaid, July 6- A Chorus Line and Legally Blonde, August 16- Xanadu, September 13- Legally Blonde and 13, September 28- Xanadu and Spring Awakening, Oct. 12-GYPSY and [title of show], Oct. 19- Hairspray & Legally Blonde, Nov. 9- Wicked and 13, Dec. 14-13, Dec. 26- Billy Elliot, 2009: Jan 1- Shrek, Jan 2- 13 and Wicked, Jan 4- 13, Feb 17- In The Heights, Feb 19- Billy Elliot, Feb 22- Sweeney Todd (tour), March 28- Mary Poppins, April 4- Mamma Mia!, April 15- Jersey Boys (on tour), April 25- next to normal & 9 to 5
May 1- Billy Elliot, May 3- Spelling Bee (tour), May 8- Chicago, May 21- Wicked, June 6- Everyday Rapture, June 23- The Wiz, June 25- Hair July 15- Shrek, August 9- Wicked, September 7- Rock of Ages, October 11- Next To Normal, October 23- The Marvelous Wonderettes, November 7- Ragtime November 29- Dreamgirls, December 25- Billy Elliot, December 30- Finian's Rainbow, 2010: January 9- Bye Bye Birdie, January 16- Memphis February 17- The Phantom of The Opera, February 18- God of Carnage, March 7- Billy Elliot, March 31- American Idiot
AndAllThatJazz22
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/8/08
#16re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:24pmI would easily say N2N is the dark horse. Its nyTIMES review was a FLAT OUT RAVE, as well as the Rolling Stones review that told BE to 'take that'. I think now that the very commercial N25 was forgotten, N2N's chances went way up.
"There's nothing good on. The media hates Christmas. The media loves vampires, though. Maybe they will show a Twilight Christmas."
-Danmeg's 10 year old son.
-Danmeg's 10 year old son.
#17re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:26pm
BILLY ELLIOT = SPRING AWAKENING
9 TO 5 = LEGALLY BLONDE
NEXT TO NORMAL = GREY GARDENS
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#18re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:26pmI mean... I hope so...... there have many surprises before. I think it could happen.
WishingOnlyWounds2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/25/08
#19re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:28pmBilly Elliot isn't equivalent to Spring Awakening at all. Billy Elliot was highly anticipated and had already been a success in two other countries... Spring Awakening was an original musical. If anything 'next to normal' is... original musical that came and blew audiences away.
2008: Feb. 18- Rent, Feb. 19- Curtains, April 18- Xanadu, April 22- Wicked, April 26- Legally Blonde, May 31- Wicked, June 13- The Little Mermaid, June 28- Wicked and Young Frankenstein, July 2- The Little Mermaid, July 6- A Chorus Line and Legally Blonde, August 16- Xanadu, September 13- Legally Blonde and 13, September 28- Xanadu and Spring Awakening, Oct. 12-GYPSY and [title of show], Oct. 19- Hairspray & Legally Blonde, Nov. 9- Wicked and 13, Dec. 14-13, Dec. 26- Billy Elliot, 2009: Jan 1- Shrek, Jan 2- 13 and Wicked, Jan 4- 13, Feb 17- In The Heights, Feb 19- Billy Elliot, Feb 22- Sweeney Todd (tour), March 28- Mary Poppins, April 4- Mamma Mia!, April 15- Jersey Boys (on tour), April 25- next to normal & 9 to 5
May 1- Billy Elliot, May 3- Spelling Bee (tour), May 8- Chicago, May 21- Wicked, June 6- Everyday Rapture, June 23- The Wiz, June 25- Hair July 15- Shrek, August 9- Wicked, September 7- Rock of Ages, October 11- Next To Normal, October 23- The Marvelous Wonderettes, November 7- Ragtime November 29- Dreamgirls, December 25- Billy Elliot, December 30- Finian's Rainbow, 2010: January 9- Bye Bye Birdie, January 16- Memphis February 17- The Phantom of The Opera, February 18- God of Carnage, March 7- Billy Elliot, March 31- American Idiot
ZONEACE
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/10/05
#20re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:29pmplease don't compare n2n to Spring Awakening, it's really insulting to anyone involved with the show.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#21re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:30pm
BILLY ELLIOT = SPRING AWAKENING
9 TO 5 = LEGALLY BLONDE
NEXT TO NORMAL = GREY GARDENS
Good comparison.
Add:
SHREK = MARY POPPINS
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
Updated On: 5/5/09 at 05:30 PM
#22re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:31pmNEXT TO NORMAL should be so lucky as to have HALF of the level of success that SPRING AWAKENING has had and continues to have.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
AndAllThatJazz22
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/8/08
#23re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:35pm
Spring Awakening: The edgy, risque, small, cozy musical that won the hearts of the critics... and theatre lovers and struggled with tourists.
Billy Elliot: The big, critically acclaimed, tourist trap tear jerker.
How is that the same?
"There's nothing good on. The media hates Christmas. The media loves vampires, though. Maybe they will show a Twilight Christmas."
-Danmeg's 10 year old son.
-Danmeg's 10 year old son.
#24re: Next to Normal as a Dark Horse?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 5:35pm
"BILLY ELLIOT = SPRING AWAKENING
9 TO 5 = LEGALLY BLONDE
NEXT TO NORMAL = GREY GARDENS
Good comparison.
Add:
SHREK = MARY POPPINS "
Complete agreement.
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