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#51

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Can we please get back to NORM LEWIS and not a racial arguement?!?!

With THIS group? Shyeaaah.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#52

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

But that's not the story they're going to tell with the Little Mermaid. There are dozens of ways a multiracial family can happen. Think of your favorite and insert it somewhere in your understanding of the show. It doesn't need to be developed on stage because that's not the story they're there to tell.

Right, most feel its an inconsequential plot development, but that dosen't make it racist. Race Issue does not = racist.

PS. NO ONE KNOWS WHOSE CAST!!!!!!!!

I have several names, one is Julian2. I am also The Opps Girl. But cross me, and I become Bitch Dooku!

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:19 PM

#54

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

What's there to say about Norm Lewis?

He was great in Two Gentlemen of Verona, as he was in almost every other show.

He's extremely underwhelming in Les Miserables.

He's unconfirmed for The Little Mermaid.

He's UNCONFIRMED for The Little Mermaid.


UNCONFIRMED!

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:20 PM

#56

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Right, most feel its an inconsequential plot development, but that dosen't make it racist. Race Issue racist.

The problem is that the discussion of race is so sensitive that anyone is willing to piss themselves and scream racist when other people are just trying to have a discussion, even when they're doing their best.

And even when it's something as laughable as...merpeople.

(And then it circles around again and makes people MORE afraid to discuss it because they're afraid to offend.)

No wonder nothing ever gets done.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:22 PM

#57

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Right, most feel its an inconsequential plot development, but that dosen't make it racist.

I completely agree. I don't think there's anything blatantly racist in questioning incongruous racial casting choices. I just feel the argument in this case (and in many, but not all) is a little stubborn and myopic.

A lot of people are thinking exactly what FOAnatic expressed, though. Some people are thinking worse, and some people thought it initially but almost immediately got over it. So there's really no way to avoid some kind of an argument.
#58

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Amen Lizzie.

This could all be solved if you know who . . .
<<<<<<<<<<<<
. . . did it in drag and blueface.
I have several names, one is Julian2. I am also The Opps Girl. But cross me, and I become Bitch Dooku!
#59

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

A discussion is one thing, but when you point out to someone that they are being racially insensitive (very sensitively, I might add) but the person still refuses to see it, and continues to hammer their argument (that offends me greatly), one can only be pushed so far before calling something by its proper name, racist.

People aren't afraid of talking about racism, people are just afraid to admit it when they are wrong or being culturally insensitive. That doesn't make you a devil, it just means you probably haven't thought about it hard enough.

Its understandable, especially if you haven't had a lot of exposure to multiculturalism (and juding from where many people post on this board, I can understand that).

I grew up in NYC, I guess Im just used to the melting pot (which NYC really isn't), but this is the new century and backwards thinking just gets me upset, as it should, especially when stubbornness enters into it.
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl
#60

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Here's the thing about "non-traditional" families:

They are what they are, and don't often feel the need to explain why, which they shouldn't have to do.

The most lucid thing in this thread is the idea that why the fmaily is the way it is is not "The Little Mermaid". And contrary to your suggestion FOA, explaining it in the show and deviating from the movie would be more detrimental to the family-friendliness and therefore $, then simply letting the family be.
"We don't value the lily less for not being made of flint and built to last. Life's bounty is in it's flow, later is too late. Where is the song when it's been sung, the dance when it's been danced? It's only we humans who want to own the future too." - Tom Stoppard, Shipwreck
#61

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

A discussion is one thing, but when you point out to someone that they are being racially insensitive (very sensitively, I might add) but the person still refuses to see it, and continues to hammer their argument (that offends me greatly), one can only be pushed so far before calling something by its proper name, racist.

Pot and kettle?
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#62

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Julian2, what Les Miz clips are you talking about?
"Men like me can never change, Men like you can never change. No, 24601. My duty's to the law - you have no Rights. Come with me 24601. Now the wheel has turned around, Jean Valjean is nothing now. Dare you talk to me of crime, And the price you had to pay. Every man is born in sin. Every man must choose his way. You know nothing of Javert. I was born inside a jail, I was born with s like you, I am from the gutter too!" ~Javert
#63

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Damn straight, Lizzie.

There's just one difference.

My argument is right, his argument debases humanity.
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl
#64

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

My argument is right, his argument debases humanity.

AHAHA HA HA HA!!!!!
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#65

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Fen, have you ever heard of Godwin's Law? ... does anyone know if there is a similar law in place for inviting someone to parade about in a white sheet?

Even if you're right your argument has completely folded in on itself.
#68

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Unless foa is planning on going in costume as a silly Halloween ghost to "Little Mermaid," wearing a white sheet is a baaad idea.

I love (read: sarcasm) how everyone gets all adamant about racism. Honestly the only real time I have an issue with it, is when it becomes incongruent (sp?) with the source material. I.E. I would not like to see Patti LuPone play "Sarah" in "Ragtime" in much the same way I would not like to see Norm Lewis play Atticus Finch in "To Kill a Mockingbird." It would not make historical sense. That said, I think Norm would be brilliant in the role, and it would open him up to a new fan base.

That said, yes, I do believe the person in my avatar would make for a great King Triton in whatever color face she so chooses.

http://www.youtube.com/huskcharmer

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:45 PM

#71

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Participating in this thread now almost seems worthwhile. re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?
'"Contrairiwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic."' ~Lewis Carroll
#72

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Touché, Craww.

Julian and Husk, I agree with you. Maybe I was a bit overzealous, but offended nonetheless.

"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl
#73

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

What in the heck is incongruous about the casting? There's nothing incongruous about it...it's possible for Triton to be Black and for Ariel to be a very fair Biracial character...besides that...IT'S A PIECE OF FICTION...GET A GRIP PEOPLE!!!!!!
#74

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

Oh Craww...

I thought there was nothing else to be added to this thread.

Thank you. You made my night.
"The nice thing about the rain is that it always stops... eventually."

- Eeyore
#75

re: Norm Lewis as... 'Triton' in Little Mermaid?

It seems to me, FOAnatic...or whatever you call yourself...that you should be having a stink about the casting directors NOT casting a fair-skinned Biracial female in the role of Ariel if they cast Norm Lewis as Triton...or a Biracial female period...forget the fair-skin...

I guess the bottom line is...who sings the best and who's going to draw the biggest audience and fork over the most dough to go see the show...that's all the producers care about anyway...who's the box office draw...Norm Lewis has a fabulous voice and I think he would be incredible in the role...I don't think he was miscast in the least bit...I'm so sick of you narrow-minded fans who can't see anything but paste on the stage and think that's art...HA!!!!!!

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