Norm Lewis as... "Triton" in Little Mermaid?- Page 3

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:19pm

Can we please get back to NORM LEWIS and not a racial arguement?!?!

With THIS group? Shyeaaah.

[Julian2]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:19pm

But that's not the story they're going to tell with the Little Mermaid. There are dozens of ways a multiracial family can happen. Think of your favorite and insert it somewhere in your understanding of the show. It doesn't need to be developed on stage because that's not the story they're there to tell.

Right, most feel its an inconsequential plot development, but that dosen't make it racist. Race Issue does not = racist.

PS. NO ONE KNOWS WHOSE CAST!!!!!!!!

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:19 PM

[Craww]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:19pm

I like Norm Lewis. He seems so affable.

[Yankeefan007]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:20pm

What's there to say about Norm Lewis?

He was great in Two Gentlemen of Verona, as he was in almost every other show.

He's extremely underwhelming in Les Miserables.

He's unconfirmed for The Little Mermaid.

He's UNCONFIRMED for The Little Mermaid.


UNCONFIRMED!
Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:20 PM

[Julian2]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:20pm

And he sounds lovely in the Les Miz clips.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:22pm

Right, most feel its an inconsequential plot development, but that dosen't make it racist. Race Issue racist.

The problem is that the discussion of race is so sensitive that anyone is willing to piss themselves and scream racist when other people are just trying to have a discussion, even when they're doing their best.

And even when it's something as laughable as...merpeople.

(And then it circles around again and makes people MORE afraid to discuss it because they're afraid to offend.)

No wonder nothing ever gets done.

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:22 PM

[Craww]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:29pm

Right, most feel its an inconsequential plot development, but that dosen't make it racist.

I completely agree. I don't think there's anything blatantly racist in questioning incongruous racial casting choices. I just feel the argument in this case (and in many, but not all) is a little stubborn and myopic.

A lot of people are thinking exactly what FOAnatic expressed, though. Some people are thinking worse, and some people thought it initially but almost immediately got over it. So there's really no way to avoid some kind of an argument.

[Julian2]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:29pm

Amen Lizzie.

This could all be solved if you know who . . .
<<<<<<<<<<<<
. . . did it in drag and blueface.

[Fenchurch]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:30pm

A discussion is one thing, but when you point out to someone that they are being racially insensitive (very sensitively, I might add) but the person still refuses to see it, and continues to hammer their argument (that offends me greatly), one can only be pushed so far before calling something by its proper name, racist.

People aren't afraid of talking about racism, people are just afraid to admit it when they are wrong or being culturally insensitive. That doesn't make you a devil, it just means you probably haven't thought about it hard enough.

Its understandable, especially if you haven't had a lot of exposure to multiculturalism (and juding from where many people post on this board, I can understand that).

I grew up in NYC, I guess Im just used to the melting pot (which NYC really isn't), but this is the new century and backwards thinking just gets me upset, as it should, especially when stubbornness enters into it.

[aspiringactress]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:32pm

Here's the thing about "non-traditional" families:

They are what they are, and don't often feel the need to explain why, which they shouldn't have to do.

The most lucid thing in this thread is the idea that why the fmaily is the way it is is not "The Little Mermaid". And contrary to your suggestion FOA, explaining it in the show and deviating from the movie would be more detrimental to the family-friendliness and therefore $, then simply letting the family be.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:34pm

A discussion is one thing, but when you point out to someone that they are being racially insensitive (very sensitively, I might add) but the person still refuses to see it, and continues to hammer their argument (that offends me greatly), one can only be pushed so far before calling something by its proper name, racist.

Pot and kettle?

[javertjunky]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:35pm

Julian2, what Les Miz clips are you talking about?

[Fenchurch]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:36pm

Damn straight, Lizzie.

There's just one difference.

My argument is right, his argument debases humanity.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:37pm

My argument is right, his argument debases humanity.

AHAHA HA HA HA!!!!!

[Craww]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:37pm

Fen, have you ever heard of Godwin's Law? ... does anyone know if there is a similar law in place for inviting someone to parade about in a white sheet?

Even if you're right your argument has completely folded in on itself.

[RentBoy86]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:38pm

Foa, how'd you feel about Bernarda Alba? The mother was black but yet had spanish children, white children, etc.

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:38pm

Keep digging yourself into that hole, Fen.

Let's just notice who's stopped arguing and who's still harping on it.

[husk_charmer]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:45pm

Unless foa is planning on going in costume as a silly Halloween ghost to "Little Mermaid," wearing a white sheet is a baaad idea.

I love (read: sarcasm) how everyone gets all adamant about racism. Honestly the only real time I have an issue with it, is when it becomes incongruent (sp?) with the source material. I.E. I would not like to see Patti LuPone play "Sarah" in "Ragtime" in much the same way I would not like to see Norm Lewis play Atticus Finch in "To Kill a Mockingbird." It would not make historical sense. That said, I think Norm would be brilliant in the role, and it would open him up to a new fan base.

That said, yes, I do believe the person in my avatar would make for a great King Triton in whatever color face she so chooses.

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:45 PM

[Julian2]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:46pm

From the show videos section on the site.

Here:
Les Miz
https://www.broadwayworld.com/videoinfo.cfm?showid=2357

EDIT; Oh yeah Husk, see you at the temple.

Updated On: 2/7/07 at 07:46 PM

[Craww]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:53pm

Y/N/M?

[Shawk]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:54pm

Participating in this thread now almost seems worthwhile.

[Fenchurch]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:54pm

Touché, Craww.

Julian and Husk, I agree with you. Maybe I was a bit overzealous, but offended nonetheless.

[TT]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:55pm

What in the heck is incongruous about the casting? There's nothing incongruous about it...it's possible for Triton to be Black and for Ariel to be a very fair Biracial character...besides that...IT'S A PIECE OF FICTION...GET A GRIP PEOPLE!!!!!!

[MovieGuy1031]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 7:56pm

Oh Craww...

I thought there was nothing else to be added to this thread.

Thank you. You made my night.

[TT]

Posted: 2/7/07 at 8:02pm

It seems to me, FOAnatic...or whatever you call yourself...that you should be having a stink about the casting directors NOT casting a fair-skinned Biracial female in the role of Ariel if they cast Norm Lewis as Triton...or a Biracial female period...forget the fair-skin...

I guess the bottom line is...who sings the best and who's going to draw the biggest audience and fork over the most dough to go see the show...that's all the producers care about anyway...who's the box office draw...Norm Lewis has a fabulous voice and I think he would be incredible in the role...I don't think he was miscast in the least bit...I'm so sick of you narrow-minded fans who can't see anything but paste on the stage and think that's art...HA!!!!!!