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Gizmo6
#25Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/14/17 at 12:18pm

UncleCharlie said: "Gizmo6 said: "dramamama611 said: "Still ridiculous. YOU still had the same opportunity as "they" did. Just because it didn't work out, doesn't mean it's unfair. Disappointing, sure."

I never said I didn't have the same opportunity.

What I am saying is theatre depends on people that will go see a production without a stunt cast, especially theatres like the NT, which didn't need stunt casting for Angels.


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Doesn't the fact that you were so desperate to see these "stuntcasted" productions make you as much of a stargazer as anyone else who wanted to go? Oh no, everyone else is a Johnny come lately who doesn't support real theater nearly as much as you do. Everyone else is a stargazer and you are the only real theater fan. And this is not a gross generalization cause you know the theater attendance histories of everyone else who bought a ticket and none of them have supported theater like you have.

Uh, OK, sure.
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Jesus you’re a wagon. 

Angels is never performed over this direction. So yes I wanted to see it.

you can spot a star gazer a mile off, that is when they raise their head out of their bucket of popcorn, phone, slushy, delete as appropriate. 

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SmokeyLady
#26Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/14/17 at 12:24pm

Gizmo6 said: "SmokeyLady said:

Good for you for being able to go to this show again and again and again and again and again. Obviously money is not that much of a issue for you with regards to your enjoyment of this production even if some of the performances you have seen have been on cheaper Donna nights. But just curious; you think that maybe you have crossed the line? Might therapy be eventually healthier and cheaper?"

It's none of your business what the poster spends their money on or how they assess value. The poster has been attending the theatre for over 40 years and was probably sitting beside some star gazer who scooped up the discounted tickets.

It really irks me that people who support theatre their whole lives now can't get tickets when they stunt cast.

Crossed a line? Only you crossed the line,criticising someones mental health is the lowest of the low and you should have a long hard look in the mirror.
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Ethelmae has openly discussed on this board beautifully his reasons for attending Dolly so many times.  Of course it would normally be none of my business but this has been discussed and chatted about throughout the other threads.  Perhaps my wording is a little harsh.  As for the pricing.. now that we are starting to approach the end of Bette's run those premium seats are only going to get higher.  Everyone had the chance to buy tickets when they first went on sale.  

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haterobics
#27Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/14/17 at 7:14pm

tomwsjr said: "Lesson to be learned: Don’t buy premium priced tickets!"

Not really. The lesson for anything like this is, once you buy tickets to an event, stop looking at ticket prices afterward.

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haterobics
#28Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/14/17 at 7:17pm

Gizmo6 said: "What I am saying is theatre depends on people that will go see a production without a stunt cast, especially theatres like the NT, which didn't need stunt casting for Angels."

Bette in Dolly is stunt casting?!

Are you sure you know what stunt casting means?

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binau
#29Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/14/17 at 7:23pm

Stunt casting is Jerry Springer in Chicago or perhaps even Fran Drescher in Cinderella. Bette in Hello, Dolly! is "EVENT" casting.


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

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mc1227
#30Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/14/17 at 10:07pm

When I bought my tickets to Hamilton over 2 years ago, it was a month before its Broadway opening.  I spent $77 a ticket for rear mezzanine at the box office and waited 4 months for the show.  I sat next to a family of 4  from Texas who told me they spent $400 per ticket through a broker and thought it was a bargain.  When I told him how much I had,paid, I thought there was going to be a meltdown but no.  The father told me that it's what his family wanted most for their nyc trip.  When the show was over, I asked if it was worth it and he just smiled from ear to ear and nodded. 

I feel that way about Dolly.  I only paid $99 + fees but would have spent the $400 to see this production.  I saw it today and Im still smiling ear to ear. If something makes you that happy, it doesn't matter what anyone else paid.  


The only review of a show that matters is your own.

JBC3
#31Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/15/17 at 5:57am

^^ Yes. This is the key.

While it is hard to ignore others might have paid less than you for comparable seats, focus on if you feel you received value for what you paid.

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DAME
#32Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/15/17 at 12:40pm

JBC3 said: "^^ Yes. This is the key.

While it is hard to ignore others might have paid less than you for comparable seats, focus on if you feel you received value for what you paid.
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It is such a good show.  Hopefully you will cherish the memories of such a extraordinary production merged with the presence of a legend. All the money you spent will have been worth it. 


HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!

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GavestonPS
#33Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 1:11am

EthelMae said: "I love this show. You all know that as I have gone on about it several times here. It's worth every penny I spent.

That being said, I don't agree with you. We can't "keep our eyes on our own papers". That's why frequent flyers know all about how to get the cheapest flight. If I had just waited 1/2 an hour tonight, I would have saved $200- that matters. With Producers charging $1000 for the 1st Row, we, as frequent theatregoers, have to know and be informed that you can get Orch, Row H on the aisle for a Friday night for $229. There's a poster here who frequently updates us on Dolly regular price available tickets. I'll keep watching his posts or wait till closer to curtain.
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Nobody said you shouldn't shop for bargains beforehand.

But once you make a purchase, stop shopping. How did you even know what your neighbor had spent for his or her ticket? I wouldn't dream of asking that question of another patron. And you can certainly choose not to do so, since it obviously spoils the show for you if you didn't get the best bargain.

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#34Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 1:20am

I can't escape the irony that SmokyLady is told it's "none of her business" what Ethelmae spends on theater tickets when this thread wouldn't even exist if Ethelmae hadn't made it her business to find out what her neighbor paid!

To be clear, I don't think either did anything wrong. (Though I have said Ethelmae might find it better not to know for her own sake.)

Gizmo6
#35Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 9:22am

I can't escape the irony that SmokyLady is told it's "none of her business" what Ethelmae spends on theater tickets when this thread wouldn't even exist if Ethelmae hadn't made it her business to find out what her neighbor paid!

To be clear, I don't think either did anything wrong. (Though I have said Ethelmae might find it better not to know for her own sake.)

 

I mean't its not for whoever commented to pass judgement on their spending in particular to make assertions about someones mental health. 

 

KathyNYC2
#36Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 9:39am

When I used to work primarily during the daytime, I had much more flexibility when it came to lottery and last minute deals so I saw a lot of shows at a cheaper rate. Now that I generally work "theater hours", I can't do that anymore and need to plan ahead so of course I'm often going to spend more. I have never resorted to a premium seat and I still look out for discount codes, TKTS on occasion, etc But if I really want to see something where I can't find a discount or I really need a ticket on s particular day, I buy what I can and always from the box office so at least I'm not paying the extravagant fees. 

I understand I'm lucky that I live close by so I can do this. But I also understand that there are people on any given day who pay more and less than I do. And that's just the way it is. 

Updated On: 10/16/17 at 09:39 AM

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SmokeyLady
#37Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 1:30pm

Gizmo6 said: "I can't escape the irony that SmokyLady is told it's "none of her business" what Ethelmae spends on theater tickets when this thread wouldn't even exist if Ethelmae hadn't made it her business to find out what her neighbor paid!

To be clear, I don't think either did anything wrong. (Though I have said Ethelmae might find it better not to know for her own sake.)



I mean't its not for whoever commentedto pass judgement on their spending in particular to make assertions about someones mental health.


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I wasn't making assertions.  Ethel has openly shared many times her reasons for his repetitive viewings.  And I am not passing any judgements.  I would be going to this show all the time as well if I lived near the city. 

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EthelMae
#38Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 4:20pm

Just wanted to clear up something here. I did not ask the person sitting next to me at Dolly last Friday night what they paid for their seat! I purchased my ticket thru Telecharge and then just for the hell of it I went back on Telecharge minutes later- and I'm talking very shortly thereafter- only to see that Orchestra H3, the seat right next to me, was now priced at regular price, $229. That infuriated me. I understand what posters have said here about prices dropping close to curtain time but this seemed, frankly, unfair. After I had an on the street shouting match, me shouting, to some poor Rep at Telecharge, he explained that the producers make the prices and they are not responsible for what price comes up at any time on line. They said they couldn't help me.

I did call Telecharge the next day and was told by a Rep to send an e-mail to Customer Service, which I did. They sent a fast reply that the e-mail would be looked into by a manager and that they would get back to me as "soon as they had more information."

 

Updated On: 10/16/17 at 04:20 PM

After Eight
#39Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 5:20pm

Gizmo6 said:

"It really irks me that people who support theatre their whole lives now can't get tickets when they stunt cast. "

 

Money knows no argument, and the market has a heart of stone. It doesn't know or care if the person with oodles of dough to spend has never seen a play before, or the one with nary a sou is a lifelong theatregoer. The former wins every time.

Updated On: 10/16/17 at 05:20 PM

UncleCharlie
#40Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 5:39pm

After Eight said: "Gizmo6 said:

"It really irks me that people who support theatre their whole lives now can't get tickets when they stunt cast. "



Money knows no argument, and the market has a heart of stone. It doesn't know or care if the person with oodles of dough to spend has never seen a play before,or the onewith nary a sou is a lifelong theatregoer. The former wins every time.
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Last I checked, no.one is obligated to complete a questionnaire proving their qualifications to be allowed to buy a ticket. They put them on sale and if you want to go, you buy a ticket. If they are sold out, that's the breaks. As has been famously said, it's show business and without the business, there is no show.

P.s. If you guys cared as much about supporting the theater as you claim, you should be happy a wider audience is discovering theater and may now be inclined to go on a more regular basis in the future instead of complaining about it being harder to score a cheap ticket.

Updated On: 10/16/17 at 05:39 PM

JSquared2
#41Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 5:55pm

EthelMae said: "Just wanted to clear up something here. I did not ask the person sitting next to me at Dolly last Friday night what they paid for their seat! I purchased my ticket thru Telecharge and then just for the hell of it I went back on Telecharge minutes later- and I'm talking very shortly thereafter-only to see that Orchestra H3, the seat right next to me, was now priced at regular price, $229. That infuriated me. I understand what posters have said here about prices dropping close to curtain time but this seemed, frankly, unfair. After I had an on the street shouting match, me shouting, to some poor Rep at Telecharge, he explained that the producers make the prices and they are not responsible for what price comes up at any time on line. They said they couldn't helpme.

I didcall Telecharge the next day and was told by a Rep to send an e-mail to Customer Service, which I did. They sent a fast reply that the e-mail would be looked into by a manager and that they would get back to me as "soon as they had more information."


You are really coming across as quite the lunatic...

P.S.  No one from Telecharge is going to be getting back to you.

 

 

carnzee
#42Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/16/17 at 6:55pm

The only person I feel sorry for is the telecharge worker you shouted at. You were not wronged in any way. What are you looking for customer service to explain to you?

You bought a ticket, and shortly thereafter the price was lowered. They have every right to do that. Nothing about this is unfair.

You brought all this on yourself by checking the price of tickets after you bought yours, as you say, just for the hell of it.

 

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#43Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/17/17 at 1:11pm

Gizmo6 said: "I can't escape the irony that SmokyLady is told it's "none of her business" what Ethelmae spends on theater tickets when this thread wouldn't even exist if Ethelmae hadn't made it her business to find out what her neighbor paid!

To be clear, I don't think either did anything wrong. (Though I have said Ethelmae might find it better not to know for her own sake.)



I mean't its not for whoever commented to pass judgement on their spending in particular to make assertions about someones mental health."

 

I don't believe I questioned anyone's mental health, did I? Someone else said she is upset; I proposed a solution. I did not assume she has a problem.

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GavestonPS
#44Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/17/17 at 1:18pm

Fannymae said: "I purchased my ticket thru Telecharge and then just for the hell of it I went back on Telecharge minutes later...."

(Emphasis added.) And THAT's where you went wrong!

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poisonivy2
#45Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/17/17 at 9:20pm

I mean, it was a known quantity to you, something you loved and have seen many times. So you made the judgment that the premium price was worth it. IDK why you're upset that theaters do what they always do which is lower prices in a last bid to sell out before curtain time. 

I would have been madder had you been going in blind and paid premium prices and had an awful time (which has happened to me). But you knew the show and knew you'd love it so why be upset? No harm no foul.

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Bette's Turban
#46Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/18/17 at 9:39pm

Pricing has been fluctuating dramatically.  

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#47Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/21/17 at 12:11pm

Line for SRO was outrageous this morning.  I think a who;e group of ladies decided to come together.  They only gave out the SRO seats with no extra tickets being sold. 

michaelhale
#48Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/21/17 at 6:16pm

Bette's Turban said: "Line for SRO was outrageous this morning. I think a who;e group of ladies decided to come together. They only gave out the SRO seats with no extra tickets being sold."

Thanks for letting us know! I feel like Hello Dolly has the most varying SRO line these days, when I was trying to figure out about it to go on Friday the info was all over the place! Ended up massively over shooting how early to arrive. How early did people arrive today?

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#49Outrageous Dolly
Posted: 10/21/17 at 9:08pm

9: ish.   


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