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Riedel: "Clear DaY" Cast Member Stealing Money?

Gaveston2
#25Riedel:
Posted: 11/19/11 at 7:55pm

Again, I realize Reidel has done nothing illegal and I know small town and neighborhood papers sometimes have a "police blotter" where all sorts of petty infractions are listed along with names and other identifying information.

But devoting column inches to this matter in a major metropolitan newspaper in the city that has always been the cultural center of a large nation does Reidel no credit. At the very least, it suggests he can't find enough material to fill his column. (If the thief were one of the stars of the show, I might think otherwise; but I'm sure the columnist would have provided a hint if such were the case.)

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henrikegerman
#26Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 2:40pm

I haven't seen it reported anywhere else, Jane2, but I normally get my stage news only here or in the Times. Interesting point, though, if Reidel's column is the only place it's appeared.

"But devoting column inches to this matter in a major metropolitan newspaper in the city that has always been the cultural center of a large nation does Reidel no credit. At the very least, it suggests he can't find enough material to fill his column. (If the thief were one of the stars of the show, I might think otherwise; but I'm sure the columnist would have provided a hint if such were the case.)"

Gaveston, I'm gonna give you a pass on this because you're out of town, but this is The Post, not exactly a credit to the Fourth Estate. All of us should consider ourselves lucky that it didn't end up on the front page!
Updated On: 11/25/11 at 02:40 PM

Gaveston2
#27Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 2:46pm

I remember the NY POST all too well, henrik. It was trash long before Murdoch bought it. I lived in New York during the "HEADLESS CORPSE IN TOPLESS BAR" days.

And I believe you and others that by POST standards, Reidel isn't exceptional. But that doesn't change the principle behind my posts.

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Mister Matt
#28Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 3:23pm

A story about an employee stealing from other employees would regularly make the news, newspapers and other media with a full account of the employee's name and information if it took place in other professions.

Perhaps in a small town where there is little to report. Or perhaps in cases where massive amounts of money are embezzled. But if the major metropolitan newspapers consistently reported on people who stole from coworkers in the office, they would be as thick as phone books.


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SonofRobbieJ
#29Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 3:28pm

But the person involved is actually pretty known in the business and has a really bright future ahead of them. Frankly, I'm stunned at the restraint shown by not putting this person's name out there. And you can be damn sure I won't be the one to do it.

Gaveston2
#30Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 3:54pm

Good for you, sonofrobbiej. I knew you were a classy guy.

If the police had NOT been called and the matter were NOT being handled, then this might be a bonafide story. As reported, it's something that has happened almost everywhere I've ever worked without being reported in the press.

I can't speak for others, but not knowing the name of the culprit doesn't bother me.

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Phantom of London
#31Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 4:05pm

'After all, youre not going to find many Broadway producers camping out in Zuccotti Park.'

Great line by Riedel today.

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PalJoey
#32Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 4:25pm

If the police had NOT been called and the matter were NOT being handled, then this might be a bonafide story.

Not quite. Under those circumstances, it would NOT be a bona-fide story at all. It would be gossip, potentially libelous gossip at that.

According to established journalistic practices, it became a legitimate story when the police made an arrest. Reporting that an arrest has been made is not gossip or libel; is a legitimate story.


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binau
#33Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 4:45pm

It's interesting that someone who is apparently dependent on drugs and regularly (n=2) stealing money from his colleagues has a "bright future ahead" :P. I don't really care who it is and hope they can get help, but I still think it's interesting to hear that things like this happen backstage, even if to some it may not be surprising....so I for one am glad Riedel posted it.



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Updated On: 11/23/11 at 04:45 PM

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SonofRobbieJ
#34Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 4:49pm

This person definitely can still have a very bright future. Exceedingly talented. But clearly troubled. I, for one, am pulling for them to get the help they need. And if I was in the show and had something stolen from me, I'd still feel the same.

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Jane2
#35Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 5:30pm

This person iS exttremely talented and should have a bright future if they get their act together. I work in the business and am surprised to hear that many colleagues do not know of this person.

anyway, this is upsettiNg aond I wish them the best.


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tazber
#36Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 6:01pm

I recall a discussion in a thread several months ago about an actor stealing from his colleagues. When I read it in Riedel's column my first thought was "oh, I heard about this guy on BWW".

I hope he gets help, and it speaks well of his colleagues that they are trying to help him.


....but the world goes 'round

#37Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 6:02pm

It's threads like this that make me love Bway World- hyper analysis of one liners, pretentious announcements, "I know who but would NEVER divulge" self-aggrandizement and bosom clutching over criticizing way-too-seroius wunderkinds. Bravo to all involved.

Gaveston2
#38Riedel:
Posted: 11/23/11 at 6:14pm

paljoey, what was Watergate but an extended story of undiscovered, unprosecuted crimes? Yes, the bungling burglars may have been charged, but that was only the beginning of Woodward and Bernstein's investigation.

Of course you're right that the media take greater risks when reporting crime that hasn't been officially charged; but when law enforcement fails to follow through or actively covers up a crime, it is very much a part of the media's responsibility to expose the failure. That's one way the fourth estate acts as a check on the government.

The crime here is apparently a petty one. While I agree that Reidel has a right to report it, I don't see why it merits space in a gossip column. And I reiterate that mixing a serious report with facetious remarks about a backer's audience is simply poor taste.

(ETA to joe: who is the wunderkind in this story? Certainly not Reidel. And I promise you that no bosoms have been clutched at my house.)
Updated On: 11/23/11 at 06:14 PM


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