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Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
TexanAddams18
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#25Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:40am
Given that 13 of the past 17 years the musical with the most nominations has won, I have a hard time believing Great Comet has "no chance".
#26Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:48am
Michael "There are lines down block to buy tickets for Bullets Over Broadway!" Riedel is barely worth the paper he's printed on. And considering it's the Post, that's saying something.
Notice how he makes no statements about the more difficult categories to predict?
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 5/3/17 at 09:48 AM
#27Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:53am
GreasedLightning said: "A few Tony voter friends of mine are hugely championing Karl. We shall see.
I guess they haven't seen Platt's performance yet. It's the only possibly explanation (other than jealously, which never affects voting, right?)
CZJ at opening night party for A Little Night Music, Dec 13, 2009.
#28Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:55am
RaisedOnMusicals said: "GreasedLightning said: "A few Tony voter friends of mine are hugely championing Karl. We shall see.
I guess they haven't seen Platt's performance yet. It's the only possibly explanation (other than jealously, which never affects voting, right?)"
...or they genuinely prefer and wish to honor Andy Karl. That's... an option, too.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#29Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:58am
Actually I think the race is between dear Evan Hansen and comet... and Platt has the Tony in the bag. I can't see Groundhog Day winning a single Tony actually. Their prize is the nominations. I wonder if ticket sales will turn around for them.
froote
Broadway Star Joined: 2/14/17
#30Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:23am
Saying any of the three shows have no chance of winning Best Musical is completely ridiculous.
Dear Evan Hansen has had the frontrunner status all season.
Come From Away has the advantage of being the newest and freshest in people's minds.
Natasha Pierre has the most nominations, will likely get the most wins and it's very easy to see why voters may think that the show they're voting for the most deserves the overall prize too.
The only one that has no chance of this win is Groundhog Day which really has no narrative after it failed to receive the same raves and box office success that it did in London. I do think Andy Karl has a small chance though.
#31Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:23am
Kad said: "RaisedOnMusicals said: "GreasedLightning said: "A few Tony voter friends of mine are hugely championing Karl. We shall see.
I guess they haven't seen Platt's performance yet. It's the only possibly explanation (other than jealously, which never affects voting, right?)"
...or they genuinely prefer and wish to honor Andy Karl. That's... an option, too.
There's no doubting that Karl gives a wonderful (and courageous) performance and in most years he'd be the clear favorite. But Platt's performance is a once a decade, perhaps a once in a generation star turn. People will be talking about it for years to come.
"
CZJ at opening night party for A Little Night Music, Dec 13, 2009.
froote
Broadway Star Joined: 2/14/17
#32Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:25am
It is not once in a decade, people were raving just as much about Cynthia Erivo a year ago.
#33Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:28am
I think Platt's performance is very good, and he will likely win, but "once in a decade" or "once in a generation" are not labels I would affix to it. You are more than welcome to think otherwise, but this is a subjective opinion and you need to accept that it is likely that many, many people will not assess his performance the same way you do and that does not mean there are ill feelings involved.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 5/3/17 at 10:28 AM
#34Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:28am
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#35Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:40am
Someone on this thread complained about Ben Platt fans being annoying...but the Andy Karl stans on this board are really insufferable.
I like the man, and I'm sure he's excellent in the show. But take a breath people.
"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
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#36Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:40am
Fans of COMET, DEH, GHD and CFA are becoming insufferable. Reminds me of partisan politics. Girls, tone down the rabidness. You're all pretty.
DAME
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#37Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:43am
This thread is all obnoxious noise.
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#38Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:43am
DAME said: "This thread is all obnoxious noise."
Amen.
#39Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:44am
Karl, frankly, does not deserve the Tony. He's brilliant and I'm a big fan, and his performance is spectacular, but Platt is absolutely giving the better performance. And yes, it is a once in a decade performance, meaning that we may not see a male performance of this caliber for the rest of this 2010's. Cynthia Erivo and Ben Platt will probably be looked at as two of the greatest performances of this decade.
This whole thing reminds me of the whole situation where certain people thought that Robert Fairchild or Tony Yazbeck deserved the Tony over the absolutely brilliant Michael Cerveris in Fun Home. I just can't comprehend believing anyone to be more deserving than Platt unless you have a personal bias against him or you simply have not seen his performance, or you have been told by your group of friends to hate the show because apparently it's hip out there to hate DEH and anything associated with it.
froote
Broadway Star Joined: 2/14/17
#40Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:47am
Thankyou for that post full to the brim with opinions stated as fact.
#41Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:47am
At this point, I want David Hyde Pierce to win, if only because it would be funny to see him upset the presumed front runner for the second time in a row.
(And before anyone jumps on me, it's a joke- I think Ben Platt will win and I'd vote for him, even though I agree with Kad that I don't think it's a "once in a generation performance". Your mileage may vary.)
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#42Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:50am
froote said: "Thankyou for that post full to the brim with opinions stated as fact.
They are facts. Platt is, technically, giving a more impressive performance. Hurting your leg and showing up to work should not guarantee you a Tony.
froote
Broadway Star Joined: 2/14/17
#43Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:53am
Platt is playing his role as well as anyone could and Andy is playing his role as well as anyone could. They're polar opposite performances. One relies on emotions, one relies on comedy. Impossible to compare the technical aspects of such different performances. The Tony will go to the performance that resonated with more voters, which it seems will be Platt. That doesn't mean that those that vote for Karl are wrong.
#44Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:57am
froote said: "Platt is playing his role as well as anyone could and Andy is playing his role as well as anyone could. They're polar opposite performances. One relies on emotions, one relies on comedy. Impossible to compare the technical aspects of such different performances. The Tony will go to the performance that resonated with more voters, which it seems will be Platt. That doesn't mean that those that vote for Karl are wrong.
Alright agree to disagree. I agree that they are both brilliant opposite performances, but, IMO, it's Platt's vocal performance that sets them apart.
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/22/14
#45Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:58am
I missed the part where Riedel said Platt didn't deserve the Tony. Just from this article, he just said it was a two-man race. He could be wrong about that, but why make such a big deal about it?
Green_Flash
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#46Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:58am
I would vote for Karl over Platt. I preferred his performance. I also loved CFA and disliked Evan Hansen.
Green_Flash
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#47Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:58am
I would vote for Karl over Platt. I preferred his performance. I also loved CFA and disliked Evan Hansen.
#48Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 11:02am
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "I missed the part where Riedel said Platt didn't deserve the Tony. Just from this article, he just said it was a two-man race. He could be wrong about that, but why make such a big deal about it?"
Because there are people who think the five nominees should all be Ben Platt.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#49Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards
Posted: 5/3/17 at 11:04am
Kad said: "ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "I missed the part where Riedel said Platt didn't deserve the Tony. Just from this article, he just said it was a two-man race. He could be wrong about that, but why make such a big deal about it?"
Because there are people who think the five nominees should all be Ben Platt.
Same thing applies to the Karlites.
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