Riedel handicaps the Tony Awards- Page 2

[TexanAddams18]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:40am

Given that 13 of the past 17 years the musical with the most nominations has won, I have a hard time believing Great Comet has "no chance". 

[Kad]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:48am

Michael "There are lines down block to buy tickets for Bullets Over Broadway!" Riedel is barely worth the paper he's printed on. And considering it's the Post, that's saying something.

Notice how he makes no statements about the more difficult categories to predict?

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[RaisedOnMusicals]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:53am

GreasedLightning said: "A few Tony voter friends of mine are hugely championing Karl. We shall see. 

I guess they haven't seen Platt's performance yet. It's the only possibly explanation (other than jealously, which never affects voting, right?)

[Kad]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:55am

RaisedOnMusicals said: "GreasedLightning said: "A few Tony voter friends of mine are hugely championing Karl. We shall see. 

I guess they haven't seen Platt's performance yet. It's the only possibly explanation (other than jealously, which never affects voting, right?)"

...or they genuinely prefer and wish to honor Andy Karl. That's... an option, too.

 

[MadonnaMusical]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:58am

Actually I think the race is between dear Evan Hansen and comet... and Platt has the Tony in the bag. I can't see Groundhog Day winning a single Tony actually. Their prize is the nominations. I wonder if ticket sales will turn around for them. 

[froote]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:23am

Saying any of the three shows have no chance of winning Best Musical is completely ridiculous.

Dear Evan Hansen has had the frontrunner status all season.

Come From Away has the advantage of being the newest and freshest in people's minds.

Natasha Pierre has the most nominations, will likely get the most wins and it's very easy to see why voters may think that the show they're voting for the most deserves the overall prize too. 

The only one that has no chance of this win is Groundhog Day which really has no narrative after it failed to receive the same raves and box office success that it did in London. I do think Andy Karl has a small chance though.

[RaisedOnMusicals]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:23am

Kad said: "RaisedOnMusicals said: "GreasedLightning said: "A few Tony voter friends of mine are hugely championing Karl. We shall see. 

I guess they haven't seen Platt's performance yet. It's the only possibly explanation (other than jealously, which never affects voting, right?)"

...or they genuinely prefer and wish to honor Andy Karl. That's... an option, too.

There's no doubting that Karl gives a wonderful (and courageous) performance and in most years he'd be the clear favorite. But Platt's performance is a once a decade, perhaps a once in a generation star turn.  People will be talking about it for years to come. 

 

 

"

 

[froote]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:25am

It is not once in a decade, people were raving just as much about Cynthia Erivo a year ago.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:28am

I think Platt's performance is very good, and he will likely win, but "once in a decade" or "once in a generation" are not labels I would affix to it. You are more than welcome to think otherwise, but this is a subjective opinion and you need to accept that it is likely that many, many people will not assess his performance the same way you do and that does not mean there are ill feelings involved.

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[ZellMorrowsPledge]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:28am

GIVE KARL THE TONY

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:40am

Someone on this thread complained about Ben Platt fans being annoying...but the Andy Karl stans on this board are really insufferable.

I like the man, and I'm sure he's excellent in the show. But take a breath people.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:40am

Fans of COMET, DEH, GHD and CFA are becoming insufferable. Reminds me of partisan politics.  Girls, tone down the rabidness. You're all pretty. 

[DAME]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:43am

This thread is all obnoxious noise.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:43am

DAME said: "This thread is all obnoxious noise."

 

Amen.

[icecreambenjamin]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:44am

Karl, frankly, does not deserve the Tony.  He's brilliant and I'm a big fan, and his performance is spectacular, but Platt is absolutely giving the better performance.  And yes, it is a once in a decade performance, meaning that we may not see a male performance of this caliber for the rest of this 2010's.  Cynthia Erivo and Ben Platt will probably be looked at as two of the greatest performances of this decade.

This whole thing reminds me of the whole situation where certain people thought that Robert Fairchild or Tony Yazbeck deserved the Tony over the absolutely brilliant Michael Cerveris in Fun Home.  I just can't comprehend believing anyone to be more deserving than Platt unless you have a personal bias against him or you simply have not seen his performance, or you have been told by your group of friends to hate the show because apparently it's hip out there to hate DEH and anything associated with it.

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[froote]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:47am

Thankyou for that post full to the brim with opinions stated as fact.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:47am

At this point, I want David Hyde Pierce to win, if only because it would be funny to see him upset the presumed front runner for the second time in a row. 

(And before anyone jumps on me, it's a joke- I think Ben Platt will win and I'd vote for him, even though I agree with Kad that I don't think it's a "once in a generation performance". Your mileage may vary.)

[icecreambenjamin]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:50am

froote said: "Thankyou for that post full to the brim with opinions stated as fact.

They are facts.  Platt is, technically, giving a more impressive performance.  Hurting your leg and showing up to work should not guarantee you a Tony.

 

[froote]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:53am

Platt is playing his role as well as anyone could and Andy is playing his role as well as anyone could. They're polar opposite performances. One relies on emotions, one relies on comedy. Impossible to compare the technical aspects of such different performances. The Tony will go to the performance that resonated with more voters, which it seems will be Platt. That doesn't mean that those that vote for Karl are wrong.

[icecreambenjamin]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:57am

froote said: "Platt is playing his role as well as anyone could and Andy is playing his role as well as anyone could. They're polar opposite performances. One relies on emotions, one relies on comedy. Impossible to compare the technical aspects of such different performances. The Tony will go to the performance that resonated with more voters, which it seems will be Platt. That doesn't mean that those that vote for Karl are wrong.

Alright agree to disagree.  I agree that they are both brilliant opposite performances, but, IMO, it's Platt's vocal performance that sets them apart.

 

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:58am

I missed the part where Riedel said Platt didn't deserve the Tony. Just from this article, he just said it was a two-man race. He could be wrong about that, but why make such a big deal about it?

[Green_Flash]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:58am

I would vote for Karl over Platt.  I preferred his performance.  I also loved CFA  and disliked Evan Hansen.

[Green_Flash]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:58am

I would vote for Karl over Platt.  I preferred his performance.  I also loved CFA  and disliked Evan Hansen.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 11:02am

ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "I missed the part where Riedel said Platt didn't deserve the Tony. Just from this article, he just said it was a two-man race. He could be wrong about that, but why make such a big deal about it?"

Because there are people who think the five nominees should all be Ben Platt.

 

[icecreambenjamin]

Posted: 5/3/17 at 11:04am

Kad said: "ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "I missed the part where Riedel said Platt didn't deserve the Tony. Just from this article, he just said it was a two-man race. He could be wrong about that, but why make such a big deal about it?"

Because there are people who think the five nominees should all be Ben Platt.

 Same thing applies to the Karlites.