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#26

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

"We're searching for a proverbial needle in a real HAYstack-"
"Why is the needle proverbial and the haystack real?"
"...Are you trying to sidetrack me into LITerature?"

#28

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

Well Riedel did insist that Hamilton was going to transfer to Broadway for the 2015 season and they didn't. That might be what the poster meant?



I get Riedel is negative about a lot of things and that's "his thing." But he does too much with Hamilton.

Updated On: 5/24/16 at 11:11 PM

#29

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

ozjust4, pre-Broadway, Riedel wrote one of his typical gossip pieces about how the producers were feuding about shares and Miranda and Seller were fighting about when they were going to transfer to Broadway. So the production called a news conference that was held at the Public like the next day at which they basically said "no we are not." I'm sure you can search for all of this if you want to read details.

#30

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

HogansHero said: "ozjust4, pre-Broadway, Riedel wrote one of his typical gossip pieces about how the producers were feuding about shares and Miranda and Seller were fighting about when they were going to transfer to Broadway. So the production called a news conference that was held at the Public like the next day at which they basically said "no we are not." I'm sure you can search for all of this if you want to read details.



"

His article about that press conference was written so bitterly too i remember haha.

#31

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

reidel can bite me

hamilton deserves all the recognition its getting and as many tonys as they can carry home

does anyone think the producers will be remembered as a more importnt or impactiful musical than hamilton?

#32

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

You see I honestly don't care about Hamilton breaking a record. I would be happy if it won like 5 tonys and the wealth was spread out a bit. but Riedel just annoys me so much haha.

Updated On: 5/25/16 at 11:49 PM

#33

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

> "I've never read such pretentious drivel in my life," scoffs one voter. "The self-importance!"

Why does this read like a "blind item" column? Do real people even speak like this?

Hamilton may very well not break the Tony record for wins -- but it's not gonna be because people are angry at Phillipa Soo for being financially savvy, or resentful of Lin-Manuel Miranda for being damningly gracious. Shockingly, the voters might deem people in other shows more worthy of getting the award.

If Riedel states that the only way that the people involved Hamilton can lose in their categories is through "backlash", he is insinuating with the same breath that the Hamilton nominees deserve to win in their categories and face unjust retaliation. He can't have it both ways. He's a contrary teenager who gets off on raising hackles, and if he wants his criticism taken seriously, then it has to be founded on a more solid foundation than "boo hoo, I hate rhyming".


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#34

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

Being one of the producers of Hamilton is such a triumph in and of itself that I doubt any of them are going to be walking away from the ceremony all that bitter.

#35

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

Riedel pens something negative about Hamilton?! Shocker.

He has publicly said he is doing this to be the voice of dissent.

And no one cares.

He's over and done.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#36

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

GroupAGroup1 said: ""We're searching for a proverbial needle in a real HAYstack-"
"Why is the needle proverbial and the haystack real?"
"...Are you trying to sidetrack me into LITerature?"
"

Did somebody say haystack?


They/them. "Get up the nerve to be all you deserve to be."
#37

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

gypsy101 said: "he shows how out of touch he is by painfully admitting that he's coming around on the score by listening to it recording on his CD player. literally who owns a CD player.



Awwww, millennials.

#39

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

He's just repeating everything we already know, and have been saying for a month.



Actress, set design, choreography, and possibly best actor have always been the categories where Hamilton is not a given.



I think his "informal poll" is really him reading our thread.


....but the world goes 'round
#41

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

"I get Riedel is negative about a lot of things and that's "his thing." But he does too much with Hamilton."



And those who hype it on and on and on and on and on ...

Too much?

#42

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

Nobody in the industry that I know finds Lin "polarizing", nor do I know anyone whom he has rubbed the wrong way. Whatever you want to think, though.

#44

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

All things aside, Hamilton: The Revolution is the most definitive and inclusive "show bible" since The Producers coffee table book or the Rent Bible. The Grimmerie looks cool, but it's much more a coffee table book on development and photos than a "show bible," as it does not contain an annotated libretto... or a complete libretto at all.

#45

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

Merely because it's a dull morning, I'll take the time to point out one more example in the Endless List of Examples of Riedel's Laziness and Bad Writing: I adored Savion Glover's Shuffle Along choreography, but for Riedel to say that Glover "brilliantly re-created the original musical’s dances while giving them a modern spin," is just idiotic. Glover's work is 100% his own; the original staging to Shuffle has long vanished, along with the original orchestrations and dance arrangements. There was absolutely no "re-creating" here.

#46

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

I like the point about trying to separate Hamilton the musical from Hamilton the hype. The show is exquisite, of course. However, there is such variety on Broadway this season that is being overshadowed.


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#47

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

God I really hope voters are mature enough to vote for whoever they actually think is most deserving, and that they refuse to get swept up in hype to make it break records OR in backlash to make sure it doesn't.

Updated On: 5/25/16 at 10:07 AM

#48

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

Riedel is pretty bad at predicting Tony outcomes because having a small handful of "sources" and a huge ego are not the tools necessary for accurately determining what 800 people will vote for.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#49

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

literally who owns a CD player.

People with basic fifth-grade grammar skills?

Riedel is a self-confessed sh*t-stirrer with little credibility. He's been trying to dismantle Hamilton for a long time, but always embarrasses himself. No reason to believe this nonsense any more than anything else he's said on the subject.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#50

Riedel on Hamilton not breaking Tony record for wins

He used to be good for some backstage gossip, but he's barely even delivered much of that this season.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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