#126
Posted: 12/15/08 at 1:30am
Brantley hit the nail on the HEAD.
as usual (imho).
as usual (imho).
#127
Posted: 12/15/08 at 1:32am
Then again.. Wicked got majorly mixed reviews and yet... most popular show on Broadway... just sayin'
#128
Posted: 12/15/08 at 1:38am
i think Shrek is superior to Wicked in almost every way:
book, music, lyrics, lead performances, comedy, sincerity, set design..
the exception: MAYBE direction.
book, music, lyrics, lead performances, comedy, sincerity, set design..
the exception: MAYBE direction.
#129
Posted: 12/15/08 at 3:06am
..."I smell a happy ending."
Hmmmm...not so sure, although it should have the potential for one, as did Tale of Two Cities. This does not sound very encouraging for future audiences:
"When is the musical theater going to learn to let cartoons lie?"
...and...
"A big, expensive Broadway musical needs to have grown-up as well as kiddie appeal."
I just hope it lasts long enough for me to get to see it, or maybe that it will eventually tour =I
Hmmmm...not so sure, although it should have the potential for one, as did Tale of Two Cities. This does not sound very encouraging for future audiences:
"When is the musical theater going to learn to let cartoons lie?"
...and...
"A big, expensive Broadway musical needs to have grown-up as well as kiddie appeal."
I just hope it lasts long enough for me to get to see it, or maybe that it will eventually tour =I
#130
Posted: 12/15/08 at 3:09am
...forgot to say "break a leg" to all the cast and crew 
So...there!
So...there!
#131
Posted: 12/15/08 at 4:26am
Well, I was on the fence about seeing Shrek. Just when I thought I didn't want to, we heard about the creative team and how they weren't going to simply put the movie on stage....so I was interested. And then we heard the casting...more pluses. But then we saw the pix which exemplified the movie...back to the negatory for me.
The reviews out of Seattle did nothing for me. I was sort of hoping that my HS kids would chose it for our annual pilgrammage, so that I could both see it but not pay for it...but they took the high road (We're seeing WSS, August and Altar Boyz -- which I know isn't the high road but they really wanted an off b'way show.)
So....these reviews aren't doing it for me. If most of them were raves, I might have ventured to see it, but I think I'll stay away. For me: there needs to be a reason to re-tell a story in a different medium. Bring me something I didn't already know, give me a different perspective. I don't enjoy (although I can appreciate) "the movie on stage".
No, I haven't heard the music and no one that I personally know has been there yet...I'm just not interested. I'd rather spend my teacher's salary on shows that I'm curious about and that pique my interest.
The reviews out of Seattle did nothing for me. I was sort of hoping that my HS kids would chose it for our annual pilgrammage, so that I could both see it but not pay for it...but they took the high road (We're seeing WSS, August and Altar Boyz -- which I know isn't the high road but they really wanted an off b'way show.)
So....these reviews aren't doing it for me. If most of them were raves, I might have ventured to see it, but I think I'll stay away. For me: there needs to be a reason to re-tell a story in a different medium. Bring me something I didn't already know, give me a different perspective. I don't enjoy (although I can appreciate) "the movie on stage".
No, I haven't heard the music and no one that I personally know has been there yet...I'm just not interested. I'd rather spend my teacher's salary on shows that I'm curious about and that pique my interest.
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#132
Posted: 12/15/08 at 6:49am
I never weigh in on these things, but I can't believe the arguments about the Times review. That review was negative...period. It basically said, Do NOT go.
#133
Posted: 12/15/08 at 7:20am
So, I think we can say that Shrek has locked nominations for:
Best Director
Best Actor: Brian D'Arcy James
Best Actress: Sutton Foster
Best Featured Actor: Christopher Sieber
And slightly decreased chances for:
Best Musical
Best Book
Best Score
Best Featured Actor: Daniel Breaker
Best Director
Best Actor: Brian D'Arcy James
Best Actress: Sutton Foster
Best Featured Actor: Christopher Sieber
And slightly decreased chances for:
Best Musical
Best Book
Best Score
Best Featured Actor: Daniel Breaker
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#134
Posted: 12/15/08 at 7:22am
Once the morning after is over, reviews matter only in terms of ticket sales.
The Times' best statement:
"...SHREK, for the record, is not bad..."
will not sell a single ticket.
The Times' best statement:
"...SHREK, for the record, is not bad..."
will not sell a single ticket.
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#135
Posted: 12/15/08 at 7:22am
I think it's way too early to say it has locked nominations for anything.
So many musicals have yet to open. There are only four or five slots per category.
So many musicals have yet to open. There are only four or five slots per category.
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"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
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#136
Posted: 12/15/08 at 7:48am
>So many musicals have yet to open.<
But not too many on the new musical front. Right now, there are only two more new musicals confirmed to open for the season - The Story of My Life and 9-to-5. (Talk of a Fela! transfer seems to have cooled). As it stands, I think Billy Elliot, Shrek and 9-to-5 will be nominated for three of the four Best Musical slots, and the fourth slot is up in the air.
But not too many on the new musical front. Right now, there are only two more new musicals confirmed to open for the season - The Story of My Life and 9-to-5. (Talk of a Fela! transfer seems to have cooled). As it stands, I think Billy Elliot, Shrek and 9-to-5 will be nominated for three of the four Best Musical slots, and the fourth slot is up in the air.
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Updated On: 12/15/08 at 07:48 AM
#137
Posted: 12/15/08 at 8:08am
Well, looks like at this point we gotta hope for the best for this show cuz frankly, I'm rootin' for it.
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#138
Posted: 12/15/08 at 9:03am
I didn't say new musicals. I said musicals.
The categories PiraguaGuy2 labeled as "locks" can be filled with both revivals and new musicals.
The categories PiraguaGuy2 labeled as "locks" can be filled with both revivals and new musicals.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#139
Posted: 12/15/08 at 9:08am
Yeah, I think it's far too early to say what SHREK has locked as far as nominations go.
Are Brian D'Arcy James and Christopher Seiber its best bets? At this point, I'd say so. Sutton Foster could get a nod but this year is chock-full of female lead performances (unless the producers of 9 TO 5 decide to promote one of their ladies in the Featured Actress slot which is doubtful...)
Are Brian D'Arcy James and Christopher Seiber its best bets? At this point, I'd say so. Sutton Foster could get a nod but this year is chock-full of female lead performances (unless the producers of 9 TO 5 decide to promote one of their ladies in the Featured Actress slot which is doubtful...)
#141
Posted: 12/15/08 at 9:18am
Does this mean [Title of Show] will have a better chance of winning some awards? What with shrek clearly sliding down that slippery slope and I'm sure 9 to 5 will follow it, maybe [TOS] will be victorious. There would be some justice in this, would there not?
#142
Posted: 12/15/08 at 9:18am
Does this mean [Title of Show] will have a better chance of winning some awards? What with shrek clearly sliding down that slippery slope and I'm sure 9 to 5 will follow it, maybe [TOS] will be victorious. There would be some justice in this, would there not?
#143
Posted: 12/15/08 at 9:19am
Wow, I am impressed at the Pinocchio costume's detailing. Too bad from some of the reviews on this board John Tartaglia doesn't get more stage time.
#144
Posted: 12/15/08 at 9:21am
Looks like Shrek's prosthetic scalp is falling off...
#145
Posted: 12/15/08 at 9:59am
>I didn't say new musicals. I said musicals. The categories PiraguaGuy2 labeled as "locks" can be filled with both revivals and new musicals.<
Yes, I realize that, but not in the categories of Musical, Book, Score, which he also includes.
Yes, I realize that, but not in the categories of Musical, Book, Score, which he also includes.
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#146
Posted: 12/15/08 at 10:38am
#147
Posted: 12/15/08 at 2:48pm
the closeup shots reveal how sutton gets "ogre-ified" so quickly, everything below and including the necklace is a rubber piece, so it would appear they just do her back and neck up green, stick on a nose and swap out her costume. Still very effective though
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#148
Posted: 12/15/08 at 2:54pm
Also it looks like the change her wig to another wig with Ogre ears and a green painted lace (for her forehead). Cool to see up close!
Updated On: 12/15/08 at 02:54 PM
#149
Posted: 12/15/08 at 5:34pm
I don't get why he praised Sutton Foster? I found her to be doing her same ol' shtick. Boring. Even her singing wasn't as powerful as I would have expected. I thought James was the star of the show, for me. And Bleaker wasn't bad either. I'm surprised he didn't care for Sieber.
#150
Posted: 12/15/08 at 6:07pm
I am extremely jealous for all of those who were able to attend this show. If I lived in NYC I would be there in a minute. I love this show, and I haven't even seen it yet. From what I have seen though it seems as though it does have the qualities to win many tony's. I think it is the front runner for best new musical as well as set and design. It is crazy good. The score is also amazing. I only hope that it stays on broadway long enough so that I can see it.
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