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#5

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

This really isn't such a mystery. Equity grants cards quite freely when there's a good reason for it - and this is a good reason. Many a good stage manager has gotten their AEA card because they did an off-Broadway show that moved on into Equity territory. Rather than replace such an integral piece of the puzzle with an Equity SM unfamiliar with the show, Equity will often grant the original SM AEA membership - and will often waive the initiation fee as well.
#7

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

Yeah, like ghostlight said, it's done all the time. Billie Joe Armstrong is hardly the first musician to make a theatrical debut on Broadway without having his equity card beforehand.

This thread really isn't about that and more about finding a reason to bitch about American Idiot, right?
#8

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

This thread really isn't about that and more about finding a reason to bitch about American Idiot, right?

Nowhere in the OP's first post did they let on that this was a negative question. They were just asking how it's done and how the producers approached AEA.
#10

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

WHOA:
No, this thread wasn't to imply shady **** going on at AI, at ALL. I was honestly just curious if the producers would buy him a card for a week, if they would think that'd be worth the money.

I wasn't bitching about AI, or implying back-alley deals with Equity. Check my posting history, I adore this show.

Sorry this got so misconstrued. I was honestly just curious.

Updated On: 9/28/10 at 11:14 AM

#15

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

Green Day fan know who Bille Joe Armstrong is.

People who want to see the show and brag about it but don't really know Green Day will need to be drawn in by "starring the lead singer of Green Day."

The advertising is the biggest issue, IMO. Green Day fans are worldwide and it would have been nice if they announced this a couple months in advance. They would undoubtedly have sold out the entire week.
#17

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

Rosie O'Donnell in GREASE!
Julia Roberts in THREE DAYS OF RAIN
Corbin Bleu in IN THE HEIGHTS
Lance Bass in HAIRSPRAY
Daniel Radcliffe in EQUUS
Clay Aiken in SPAMALOT
Haylie Duff in HAIRSPRAY
Jordin Sparks in IN THE HEIGHTS.

All performed on Broadway without Equity cards.
#18

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

All those people listed do in fact have their equity cards and if it was their first job in an Equity theatre, they (or the producers) paid their dues in order to get them to be in the show.

Plenty of people do not have Equity cards and get jobs in Equity productions, therefore having to get their Equity card. It's as simple as that.

They only time concessions are made is when an actor from another country comes. Equity had made exchange deals with British Equity and Canadian Equity and I believe Australian Equity. Where they can bring people over to US shows, but then we are allowed to put just as many American actors in their shows.

The only other time you can be in a Broadway show without an Equity card is if you are a non-speaking, non-singing, non-dancing role. Basically an extra. Some were seen in "Pal Joey" and "The Ritz".
#19

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

Dontevenstart is exactly right. All it takes to get your Equity card is to be offered an Equity contract. The initiation fees are approx. $1200 (so ten full price tickets). I think the producers know its worth it to spend the $1200 to get Billie on stage for the week.
#20

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

Isn't there another rule if you're in a sister union like SAG?
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#22

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

You don't have to join Equity if it is your first Equity production. In fact, of the three original Billys in Billy Elliot, only two joined equity, and David Alvarez did not, citing, "He did not have immediate plans to return to Broadway" If he changes his mind later, he will have to join later. Because he starred in an equity production, he is always eligible now. The producers and managers of BE don't get in trouble from Equity for employing him (as his first Bway production) after he opted out of joining Equity, because they still paid him at equity scale, and provided him the same benefits regardless. This is the only case I was privileged too regarding Equity, but as far as I know, if its your first show, you don't have to join right away, but you do later if you want to continue working on Broadway and in Equity productions. For SAG they make you join (and aren't required to until) after your first three SAG credits, otherwise you can't do anymore unless you join after your third SAG job.
#23

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

And really, the producers don't even need to "buy" his card. When joining you have up to 2 years to pay off the full initiation fee ($400 of which MUST be paid off within six months of the first day of work as an Equity member). If you don't pay it off in this time your membership is revoked and, should you take another Equity job after this, you are starting from scratch. But for this one week contract he could easily "join," the producers could withhold the appropriate working dues (currently 2.25% of your gross salary), the week ends, and he either decides he may potentially want to come back to the stage and finish paying off the initiation fees, or he walks away and is done, simple as that.

Unless Billie Joe has at some point renounced his American citizenship there are no "deals" that would have had to have been worked out with Equity.
#25

So how do we think AI is working out a deal with Equity to get BJA onstage?

Just to clarify (because I haven't seen the correct number yet):

Initiation: $1100
-$400 is due up front (within 6 months of your first contract)
-The rest is due within two years.
-The $100 fee to join EMC applies to this total as well

Yearly dues: $120 (Paid in two payments, spring and fall)

Equity usually takes these fees out of paychecks. The $1100 dollars will be taken out in installments each week in amounts that vary depending on the type of contract you are on. My total initiation fee was paid off in my first two contracts.
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