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I wish B3TA07 would disappear from BWW.

You think Travolta wasn't fat enough as Edna??? If his fat suit was any bigger, the movie would be unwatchable. On Broadway, there is a 40 foot wide stage to work with. In the movies, there are medium shots and close-ups. If Edna looks like Jabba the Hutt, she will fill the entire frame.

In the original film, Divine worked because he/she rally was that fat. On stage, Harvey looked like Harvey in a fat suit.

^I think 7 1/2 is way too generous. But whenever someone mentions the "RENT" film to me all I can say is "F*CK Chris Colombos" over and over so...




I wish Steve2 would overdose on valium.

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Updated On: 7/31/07 at 09:28 AM

i didn't have a problem with the Rent film at all, you could tell Chris Colombus put his all in to it and was very passionate about it.The performances were great and i happened to have loved his directing (except What You Own)

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As much as Dreamgirls tried to be the definitive depiction of how black culture crossed over into white culture in the 60s, I think it ultimately comes off as rather phony. I think Hairspray works much better in this respect, partly because a lot of the songs in Hairspray actually sound like 60s tunes.

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This is probably not the right time or place, but Kringas I'd noticed that your crazy pics are gone. What gives?

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Updated On: 7/31/07 at 11:02 AM

Dreamgirls is trying to be more realistic than Hairspray though. Hairspray's just a fun musical fairy tale that happens to be about desegregation. Dreamgirls is about the Motown industry and how they tried to appeal to mainstream by making the music more "white friendly." Well, not specifically, but you get what I mean, I hope.

As for which is better, I'll let you know after I see it this weekend.

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And Kringas...judging by how DREAMGIRLS is perceived and embraced now, my assessment was right on target.

From the first few frames of DREAMGIRLS to the Aaron Spelling-esque curtain call at the end of the film...I knew we had a 'new' camp classic -- alas a 'gay' one.

"Two great movies that had great success. Why try to compare them? "

Because they are the last two big movie musicals and only about six months apart. One came in as a huge oscar favorite to win best picture (dreamgirls) and turned out so bad that it wasn't even nominated. The other came in not as a serious movie with no Oscar expectation at all. However, the one coming in as the "non serious" non oscar contender is way better by leaps and bounds. The reviews say it too. Last I check Hairspray had a 93% fresh rating and dreamgirls had 78%, that's a pretty big difference.

The Dynamites were better then the dreams, their singing and especially dancing was way more polished. Perhaps because they were all basically the same size and with the dreams, you had big and tall Effie, Short Loreal and Deena.

>>Even if you like Hairspray better, which is your right, Dreamgirls had undeniably better singing overall (I've heard Hairspray's OST.) And that matters a lot to me, whether it does to you or not.

You are 100% correct, but, I thought the energy and commitment of the performances were way more convincing than anything Beyonce, jamie Foxx, or (God forgive me) JHud did in Dreamgirls.

>>The Dynamites were three random girls who were lip-synching to other women's vocals.

I thought there was something fishy when I saw that one of them was a Pussycat Doll. That sucks. Why'd they do that? Anyone know who the real voices are?

The Dynamites were actually Lipsyncing? They just looked like fierce professional singing/dancing group. Someone associated with Hairspray should win some type of Oscar for certain now, for Editing, Directing or something because they really did pull everything off seamlessly.

That's the good thing about Movies vs. Broadway. For the movies you don't have to do things live for it to be considered a great performance. As long as you've got those buttons to push to make it look "real" who cares really.

That doesn't make any sense to me. Why would you want to cast non-singers in the roles of singers? I mean, I could understand if they were big names, but no-one knows who they are.