Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
#1Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:08am
So I just got back from seeing Hairspray, and OMG, that movie was THE SH*T. Perfect songs, consistently strong cast, costumes, everything was A+++. Back when I saw it, I thought Dreamgirls was fabulous, but this is really how a movie musical is done. It was so much more fun, and touched on similar issues in way more clever and entertaining ways. The switch from the white girls to the black girls in "New Girl in Town"? So much more clever than "Cadillac Car".
But even without the comparisons, it was just such a great movie. I haven't had so much fun at the movies in a LONG time. Ten million people have probably already said this, but I think this has the potential to be the new Grease.
Sorry Dreamgirls, but Hairspray just pwned d'ya!
And yes I know, there are a million topics on this but, whatever. I need all the attention, so I'll make my own thread :P.
#2re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:12amhmmm, yeah, try saying that when this movie gets NO major category award nominations.
#2re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:15amWhy would my opinion change because of awards and nominations? Does the Academy share my mind?? Weird...
#3re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:16amUpdated On: 7/31/07 at 12:16 AM
#4re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:19amIgnore Liverpool, his circumcision when he was a child was botched. 8(
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#5re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:22amWell since Dreamgirls was devised from the start as Oscar bait, I'd say it actually came up short. Hairspray seems like it just wants to be a good FUN movie, and the general consensus is that it succeeds.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#6re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:31am
hmmm, yeah, try saying that when this movie gets NO major category award nominations.
Someone could get a supporting nod. It's not like Dreamgirls was nominated for Best Picture. Or Best Director. Or Best Actor. Or best - how many MAJOR category award nominations did Dreamgirls actually get?
#8re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:51amThis is silly. Two great movies that had great success. Why try to compare them? They are not in the same year to compare them Academy Award wise so even if Hairspray gets more, it could mean this movie year is weak or the fact that Dreamgirls was the most nominated film of last year could mean last year was weak. Either way just be happy movie musicals are getting a chance. The last thing I would think was logical was to compare these extremely diffrent films.
#9re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 12:59amI hated HAIRSPRAY!
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#10re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:40am
Funny Face - your thoughts are on par with that of an ignoramus. Are you serisouly comparing "New Girl In Town" to "Cadalliac Car?" Did you seriously just say that HAIRSPRAY was more fun than DREAMGIRLS?
News flash: DREAMGIRLS is a drama and HAIRSPRAY is a comedy. I would hope HAIRSPRAY would be more fun! If you think "And I Am Telling You" is supposed to be a fun time - you need to reevaluate which films and shows you decide to spend your money on.
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#11re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:43am
"If you think "And I Am Telling You" is supposed to be a fun time - you need to reevaluate which films and shows you decide to spend your money on."
Applause to you, they definitely needn't be compared on how a movie musical is done and whatnot.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#12re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:46am
Musicals are still a rare breed, so it's inevitable that they are going to be compared.
Pound for pound (ha!), Hairspray is the better film.
#12re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:46amI think HAIRSPRAY Disney-fies what DREAMGIRLS so clearly depicts... not to mention that in HAIRSPRAY the people of colors are the supporting characters and DREAMGIRLS puts them front and center, wonder why one film is being received better than the other....
#14re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:50am
Well then maybe "fun" was the wrong word, but even a drama is supposed to be entertaining, and I found Hairspray to be immensley more entertaining than Dreamgirls. But sorry that gets you so riled up...
And yes, I did compare those two songs because the make pretty much the same point and are presented similarly on film.
#15re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:51amMay I ask, what do you think of Chicago compared to Dreamgirls?
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#16re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:52am
It's because Hairspray is better. 'Nuff said.
But seriously, if anyone would have told me a year ago I'd say that Hairspray was the better film I would have thought they were crazy. It was nice to see characters in a musical be allowed to sing because they are in a musical. It kind of just got out of its own way on that point where Dreamgirls kind of stumbled over itself trying to give some sort of justification for the singing other than the fact that it was a musical.
#17re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:52am^^ Umm, it's been a while since I've seen Chicago, but I think I enjoyed Chicago a smidge more Updated On: 7/31/07 at 01:52 AM
#18re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:59am
"Ignore Liverpool, his circumcision when he was a child was botched. 8("
says the guy who created the "Shoes" thread, you sure they didnt accidently nick your brain when they gave you your cicumcision?
#19re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 1:59am
I'm not going to compare the films (I enjoyed both very much).... but to compare "Cadillac Car" to "New Girl in Town" is just silly. CC is much more accurate in showing the way the music industry treated minority performers vs whites.
... I think Dreamgirls was fantastic... but would have been even better if they hadn't paid so much attention to getting names in it (I understand why they did, but I still don't like it).
#20re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 2:02am
"says the guy who created the "Shoes" thread, you sure they didnt accidently nick your brain when they gave you your cicumcision?"
Except for my hair, every part of my body is Catholic, so
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#21re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 2:08am
was that supposed to be some sort of clever attempt to suggest that because you arent jewish you arent circumcised? cause i know plenty of circumcised gentiles. hell im one
something like 75% of white american males are circumcised.
so, being catolic doesnt work as a reason.
Updated On: 7/31/07 at 02:08 AM
#22re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 2:10amew, uncircumcised boys are gross.
#23re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 2:34am
Why the F*CK are you such an expert on circumcision?
Hobby?
Go to Hobby Lobby and buy models of Star Wars space ships...Christ.
ETA: Actually go to Michael's they have a better selection.
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#24re: Sorry, but DYNAMITES > >The Dreams!
Posted: 7/31/07 at 2:39am
Only on BWW can the topic go from Hairspray vs. Dreamgirls to who out of the posters is circumcised... Just goes to show how seriously we take our theatre.
As for the actual topic-
John Travolta vs. Jennifer Hudson... THAT'S enough said...
I enjoyed Dreamgirls way more than Hairspray, and I've been a fan of Hairspray the musical longer. John Travolta's take on the character made me want to vomit. The fact that he rejected the first couple prototypes of the fat suit because it MADE EDNA LOOK TOO FAT says it all...
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