Sweeney is to Brokeback Mountain as Pajama Game is to Crash — Page 3

Well, I like murdering barbers, but I hate gay cowboys.

There is nothing COMPLEX about Brokeback Mountain, it's the same as any other love story except its a GAY love story, appealing to queens all over. Nothing special about that.

Sweeney on the other hand is a work of art.

I don't think that it's true that homosexuals are the only minority group that it's still okay for people to make fun of publicly. Mentally and physically handicapped people don't seem to get a break from all these stupid comedies. THey're still widely made fun of and as a visually impaired person it bothers me immensely

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Nothing complex?
Are you kidding me?
You must be only looking on the surface of the film because it is incredibly deep if you look beneath the "gay cowboys" and "same-old love stories".

Every line of dialogue is covered with meaning aimed towards issues going on today and massive amounts of symbolism.

Brokeback Mountain and Pajama Game deserved to win.

And whoever said Brokeback Mountain made them feel bad for being gay....why? Are you a gay cowboy in North Dakota in the 60s? Did you personally identify with the characters and their situation? No film is going to make me feel bad for being gay. I have never felt bad about being gay. The film was about those characters in that particular setting during that particular era. Personally, I found most episodes of Queer as Folk more detrimental to the gay community than Brokeback Mountain.

As for Pajama Game, it was a sparkling revival of a classic show that received mostly rave reviews and has played to a sold-out run. The Sweeney revival relied so heavily on its concept, opinions were sure to be divided. Reviewing the track record of the Tonys, it's really not that big of a surprise. I was never convinced Sweeney's concept was necessary or accessible. It is interesting and theatrical, but setting the show in an asylum in 19-whatever, played out by musically inclined inmates, using symbolically suggestive props, is going to guarantee raves or awards. A Sondheim score does not mean an automatic Tony. LuPone and Cerveris to not mean automatic Tony. The concept received a Tony for the director, the tricky orchestrations received a Tony, and that's highly commendable. But it is entirely possible to love the concept, but be more entertained by another show.

In the past, I have usually found that the winners of Best Score and Best Book should have won Best Musical (with the exception of Ragtime), but in this case, I agree with the winners of Best Musical and Best Revival.

But Brokeback, the most international critically acclaimed and award-winning film of the year should have won Best Picture.

"Mentally and physically handicapped people don't seem to get a break from all these stupid comedies."

And if they are heterosexual, they still have more rights than gays and lesbians, of which state and federal governments have clearly shown that they support discrimination.

"There is nothing COMPLEX about Brokeback Mountain, it's the same as any other love story except its a GAY love story, appealing to queens all over. Nothing special about that."

The fact that it is a GAY love story is what made it more complex. Its characters were dealing with a more specifically defined struggle than most hetero love stories. If you put the love story in context with the setting and period of the film, it was extremely complex for those characters (which was brilliantly illustrated in their performances). Its overwhelming international success means that it appealed to more than just "queens" and as clearly demonstrated on this board, not all "queens" found it appealing. That derogatory statement you made seems to illustrate why you probably didn't like the film.

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Updated On: 6/16/06 at 10:46 AM

Except for a few performances, Crash sucked.

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"The comment made was that homosexuals are the only minority group left that it is okay to ridicule and make fun of publicly."

True, but that can also be said of most minorities, which are often ridiculed in popular entertainment in a variety of ways.

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Actually, the group most open to ridicule is fat people.

No. Unlike Brokeback, Sweeney did not get practically across the board raves. Unlike Crash, PG wasn't hated by many critics. Crash was a manipulative piece of dreck aimed at people who read People Magazine for its deep articles. PG never took itself seriously or pretend to be more than it was, a top notch production of a fun show. The reviews for Crash and BBM differed greatly than the reviews for PG and Sweeney. There's not comparison, imo.

"John Lloyd Young is to Jaimie Foxx as
(blank) is to Adrien Brody"

Any Tony Winner who won because everyone else nominated in their category had already won (at least once) before.

oops, sorry, didnt mean to drop out of sight, Fiction.

I loved Sandra Bullock, I thought she deserved a nomination. I also loved Thandie Newton and Terence Howard.

I thought the intent behind Crash was well meant, but ended up an unbelievable sappy mess, imo. It also felt like a sledge hammer with it's tolerance message. It bothers me that Spike Lee has been making MUCH better films than this for decades. Do The Right Thing was a masterpiece, imo.

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My opinion doesn't mean much, but my favorite performance was the little Mexican girl, and my favorite scene is a tie between the cape scene, and when um (I don't want to spoil anything) that scene that takes place out from the Mexican's house, with the daughter, and the Middle Eastern (He might not be Middle Eastern. It's been a while.)

I liked Ludacris too.

Foxx and Brody were not nominated in the same year.

I hated the "he felt me up, but then saved me" crap. I have NO idea why Dillon was nominated. He was fine, but just fine.

I did like the scene between the father and daughter, even tho it was obvious what it was setting up. Both actors were quite good. I didnt have a problem with any of the acting. It was the plot and story that made me feel like I was being preached to. I also felt like I knew what was going to happen at every turn.

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