The Best Actress Tony- Page 3

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:23pm

Munk, you really have a problem with people who disagree with you, don't you?
Applegate's hype leading up to this show was, "She's bad, she's bad, she's bad." Fast-forward to an injury, a show that was cancelled and then re-opened, and her hype is, "She's a trooper, she's working hard, she's actually a lot better than you'd expect."
I hardly call that anything more than an opinion. One with which you highly disagree, but it's certainly what's being thrown around town.
Every review I've read pre-opening (and we'll see what the critics say) says, "I went in expecting not to like her and she surprised me."
That said, I like Applegate. I've actually seen her last few movies and, Anchorman notwithstanding, think she's a very charismatic actress. She's wonderful in the Sweetest Thing. She might be an amazing Charity. Her hype, however, continues to revolve around non-performance circumstances and you sound a little cranky when reminded of this.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:32pm

No, I don't have a problem with people who disagree with me at all. I have a problem with the fact that you constantly talk about Applegate getting hype ONLY because she hurt her foot, when I don't understand why you just don't go see her for yourself.

And people saying "She's better than I expected!" isn't a bad thing. Whenever a big star does theatre, people are suspicious. I said the same thing about people like Antonio Banderas, John C. Reilly, etc. I went in expecting them to be bad, and I left LOVING them. And they didn't have any tragic accidents....that's just what comes with being a star and doing a show on bway. PEople are bound to be apprehensive.

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:37pm

You went in to Nine expecting Antonio Banderas to be bad? Did you not see Evita?

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:39pm

Munk, the weird thing here is that we don't disagree. But you think I'm being argumentative towards you and I'm honestly not.
In every way, I am praying that Applegate floors me. Otherwise, I'm going to be very upset I dropped money on this revival because I have seen enough of Cilento's work (and even though I'm going on the hearsay of this board and out-of-town reviews) and I know this choreography is going to be excruciating to me.
If I followed ONLY the out-of-town reviews and hype, I wouldn't see it at all since Applegate was routinely dismissed as being a lackluster Charity.
Now, she has arrived in New York on the heels of a lot of sympathy and, while I'm willing to believe that she really has improved enough to make me want to see it, I still feel it's hype of a sort that's bringing people into the theatre. It's certainly not the out-of-town reviews.
Again, that said, hype or not, tonight's reviews are really going to dictate whether or not this Tony race is going to be a blowout or close, because this race is a little different than last year's.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:41pm

Maybe I shouldn't have said bad - I should have said questionable.

Obviously I've seen EVITA. I knew he could sing, but that role is much more than singing. Acting for the camera and acting for the stage are completely different - and some can do both - but some can't.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:44pm

Threadjack: This is why I love Parker Posey. She has great appeal onstage. Too bad she seems to pick the worst possible projects in which to showcase that talent.
Why isn't someone putting her in a musical? She could do it.

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:48pm

I knew he could sing, but that role is much more than singing

Right, and Che is just singing, no acting required.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:50pm

No need to be unnecessarily snarky. But acting the role of Che on film and acting the role of Guido on stage are two entirely different things. You know what I'm saying.

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 2:54pm

I know what you're trying to say but I really don't think you have a point. And I wasn't being snarky, but if all you got out of Banderas as Che was that he could sing, you couldn't have been watching his performance that closely.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 3:08pm

I thought Munk's comment implied that he found out Banderas could sing from the Che role in the film and he knew he could act for the camera, the difference with nine was not that he thought Banderas would be a bad singer, or actor, but that he was going to act "screen" which would not translate to stage.
The whole of Munk's comment which it seems was taken out of context implies this:
"I knew he could sing, but that role is much more than singing. Acting for the camera and acting for the stage are completely different - and some can do both - but some can't. "

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/4/05 at 3:08pm

It doesn't matter if I was watching him closely or not - this is my opinion, not yours. When I had seen NINE, it was literally years since I had seen the movie, and I was quite young.

And I absolutely have a point. To say that acting for the stage and acting for the camera are two different things is a valid and TRUE point.

Posted: 5/7/05 at 3:41am

Sorry to take this way back, but nowhere in "Best Actress Tony" does it say "in a musical" I was trying to increase awareness to those on the board who DO ONLY see musicals when they come to New York. There's a lot of fantastic performances that never get seen because people don't go and see plays. Don't criticize me for trying to enlighten people or even get people thinking. If I had started a new thread just to talk about the plays, people wouldn't have looked at it, and people would have criticized me for starting a new thread when there are already two threads that work for that thought process...

PS. Everyone seems to be particularly "snarky" in this thread... wow...

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/7/05 at 3:50am

That was a few days ago, but I'm very protective of my Christina.

I know it didn't only say musical, but that's what everyone was talking about. There have been som fantastic performances this past year for leading women in plays, although I do have my favorites. The nominees will prob. be:

Kathleen Turner, WAOVW?
Natasha Richardson, ASND
Cherrry Jones, DOUBT
Phylicia Rashad, GOTO

The 5th slot will probably go to Jessica Lange for MENAGERIE, but I can see her getting left out for either Laura Linney, SIGHT UNSEEN, or Mary Louise Parker for RECKLESS.

I think Kathleen Turner will win - but I would give the award to Natasha Richardson, hands down.

Posted: 5/7/05 at 3:55am

Mary Louise Parker suprised me. I think her performance was stunning, but I don't think it did or will get enough recognition to take it anywhere. The production as a whole was slightly mediocre, and sometimes mediocrity is hard to overcome.
Rosie Perez was suprisingly good as well, come to think of it. Although, I recall being annoyed by her at times. Ach... that's Rosie Perez in general though...

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/12/06 at 10:56am

Bumpidy Bump: 2006 now.

[Thesbijean]

Posted: 3/12/06 at 1:14pm

This is a thread topic that needed a new thread, not adding to a 3 page one from a year ago.