The Goodbye Girl Discussion- Page 2
The Goodbye Girl Discussion
#25re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 2/27/07 at 6:20pmDoes the version available for licensing feature the lyrics by Zippel or the ones by Black? Because if the original version was a tad slow, the revision is positively agonizing.
#26re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 12:48am
It really was just too big of a treatment. The movie is basically about the guy, the woman, and her daughter. If you really think about it, you can list about ten characters from the movie who were actually involved in the plot. The musical brought in too many people.
It should have been a small show like "They're Playing Our Song."
Zippel's lyrics are good, but, coming after "City of Angels", they come off as a disappointment. Jokes about things that will be out of date before the show even closes. (Don't get me started on his lyrics to "Woman In White.")
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#27re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 5:50amI was just listening to the cast recording the other day. There are quite a few nice songs, but I think the score, as a whole, doesn't seem to work. Even on CD it feels like it drags on about 3-4 tunes MORE than it should. Perhaps Hamlisch was trying to go for too many numbers with high impact, which destroyed the arc of the score. I never got to see The Goodbye Girl, but it is a CR that I pull out periodically because I love some individual numbers.
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nmartin
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#28re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 12:27pmThe show had the most hideous sets I have ever seen. Peters didn't even seem to be in the building.
#29re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 12:48pm
It also had one of the ugliest show posters I have ever seen.
I remember seeing an ad in Playbill before the show opened and thinking "I hope the show is better than the poster."
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Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
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Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#30re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 12:53pmI saw the show and agree with what many of the others have said. The thing I remember was that the choreography was bad. The show overall never captured the strengths of the movie.
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RentBoy86
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#31re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 3:57pmfrontrow, I was thinking the same thing. I saw the CD at the library and I thought I'd try it, and I was like "hm...judging by the poster, the show probably came out in the 70s..." Nope, early 90s. It just look incredibly dated, and it sounded dated.
#32re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 3:58pmAnd the strengths of the movie were...
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DoReMi
Stand-by Joined: 5/19/03
#33re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/1/07 at 3:59pm
The score is great. It's hardly done in community theaters.
I remember that when Short and Peters were leaving, they announced Sheryl Lee Ralph and Tony Danza as replacements.
guffmanfan
Swing Joined: 1/5/07
#34re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/2/07 at 8:47amI never saw this on Broadway, but I too played Paula a few years ago locally. I found this show to be a total blast. We did use the version with the Hamlisch/Zippel music, and I was constantly kept on my toes by the witty lyrics and quick dialogue. Our sets were minimal and I think it allowed the audience to focus more on the storyline. The whole show was just alot of fun. Having not seen Bernadette do the part, I didn't take a whiny character approach to Paula. I think Paula is more of a woman who continues to make bad choices, and then finally gets a break in love. She's going through a rough spot, and doesn't take herself too seriously. More theatres should do this show- it's a gem!
WSS2
Featured Actor Joined: 5/15/03
#35re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/2/07 at 11:55amThis is such a great show. Maybe Encore will do a revival.
#37re: The Goodbye Girl Discussion
Posted: 3/6/07 at 10:01pm
I always thought of The Goodbye Girl as one of those situations where some industry friends rifled around their past work to figure out something to make some money.
Simon and Hamlisch had a green ($) light go on over their heads. The movie is a 60's Simon style idea, that was showhorned into the 70's. After 18 years, they thought that the luck they had with the original movie could be repeated.
The reality is that the movie was successful because Richard Dreyfuss, Marsha Mason and Quinn Cummings were perfect and winning in their roles. And they made creaky sitcom material seem plausible at the time. If you watch the movie today, you can see the mechanics pushing it along.
There was no reason for the musical to exist, as the style that Simon utilized for the movie had become irrelevent.
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