The Thread for HAMILTON Fans/Obsessives [SPOILERS AHEAD] — Page 3

What inspires someone to come into a thread called "The Thread for HAMILTON Fans/Obsessives" to talk about how Hamilton really isn't all that? Some deep desire to be a contrarian? An inability to let fans just enjoy something they love? There are other Hamilton threads for people to post their critical opinions.

I was thinking about the game changer argument last night, and Lilly7's wonderful post reflects a lot of the thoughts I had. I especially hope Hamilton is a game-changer for Broadway's diversity problem. Maybe some of the hip-hop artists who have been so supportive of Hamilton will try their hand at writing a musical. And hopefully the wonderful cast of Hamilton will not find their future casting options limited because "this is a white character."

"Fun Home content wise, can be considered groundbreaking. But musically, it's nothing new."

Wow, this is so inaccurate... 

I like Hamilton and I am very excited for the cast recording. But, I don't necessarily think it's a "game changer" - it, is though, in its diversity; I love how diverse the cast is - it's so refreshing, and I hope that other shows see how well the diversity is being embraced. 

Updated On: 8/21/15 at 08:20 PM

Hamilton is way better than Schoolhouse Rock. Just saying.

I think there is only one person arguing the other side of that debate.

Hamilton22 said: "I don't get how people can say Hamilton is groundbreaking in it's diversity, when Les Mis has had one of the most diverse casts for years."

When Les Mis was first introduced, the cast was (almost?) entirely white - just NOW, in 2015, the Broadway production has its FIRST black Jean Valjean. Hamilton, right off the bat, has an incredibly diverse cast. When it opened, Les Mis could not be compared to Hamilton in terms of diversity. Now at least it can, but it still does not compare to Hamilton's diversity. 

Updated On: 8/21/15 at 10:29 PM

^ Thank you!

See? Frustratingly white. 

^ And me. 

And your crafty sidekick....

Anyone here aware of the 1971 musical, Two Gentlemen of Verona?

It would match his Fun Home angst. 

firebolts said: ""Fun Home content wise, can be considered groundbreaking. But musically, it's nothing new."

I saw a few clips and love the fact that there is a diverse cast.  But the music some of it sounds good . Some of it just sounds boring

Wow, this is so inaccurate... 

I like Hamilton and I am very excited for the cast recording. But, I don't necessarily think it's a "game changer" - it, is though, in its diversity; I love how diverse the cast is - it's so refreshing, and I hope that other shows see how well the diversity is being embraced. 

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Hamilton22 said: "I don't get how people can say Hamilton is groundbreaking in it's diversity, when Les Mis has had one of the most diverse casts for years. 

Comparing Les Miz and Hamilton is apples and oranges. As you know I don't use the word groundbreaking to refer to  art, but what Hamilton is doing with ethnicity has nothing to do with what Les Miz or the 1000s of other shows that have done color blind casting. Hamilton is not color blind-it is the essence of the play that these roles reflect the contemporary American mosaic of the 21st Century as a way of considering what it means to be an American and to claim that heritage by drawing parallels between the Founding Fathers (and mothers) and the nature of America today, and with particular reference to the hip hop narrative. It is unlikely that message will ever be viewed as "groundbreaking" in the copycat sense I gather you mean because it is very particular to the dramaturgy of one specific play, in the same way that, say, Fiddler relates to Jews in Imperial Russia over a century ago and did not lead to a spate of shows telling stories through that lens.

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