Thoughts on Cynthia Erivo — Page 2

The whole point of her fight to a fan in this case is racist.

qolbinau said: "Which fight/fan?



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On twitter, some people were dream casting Hercules and mentioning their favorites. Somebody mentioned that she would love to see/hear Cynthia as one of the muses. Cynthia turned it into a racial slam. She felt it was an "ensemble" role, and below her as a black woman.

Updated On: 8/6/17 at 07:40 AM

I think she's a phenomenal singer. Had Color Purple opened this season, however, I think Bette Midler would have still beaten Cynthia for the Tony.

On Social media, I used to follow her but had to unfollow her after the Oak drama.

I think she's a nice singer, but I don't want to have anything to do with her personality. It seems like she was raised in a way that did not prepare her for sensible reasoning later in life, which results in the most bizarre situations now, pulling the race card in inappropriate situations, fighting against equality and being rude to fans and misinterpreting situations to an embarrassing point.

So I will listen to her singing, but not to what she has to say anymore.

Updated On: 8/6/17 at 08:18 AM

quizking101 said: "Even if some think it will pose a detriment to her career, if she gets the opportunity to see change on stage or in people's hearts and minds in her lifetime, I guarantee it will have been worth it for her."

Her attitude will not inflict change. But the opposite.

I was such a huge fan of hers & when I heard she was coming to Broadway to do the color purple she was all my family and friends heard about . Here lately It's a totally different story . It seems like everything is an argument with her. I don't even tweet to her anymore bc 9/10 it'll result in an argument or a block . She was more humble before the Tony .



And the stuff with Great Comet ! OMG !!!! She completely turned that into something racial (like always) & now that everyone is telling her about herself on twitter she's trying to turn it into "support for oak"

give me a break !

quizking101 said: "That is your opinion. Even if it doesn't produce direct change, it plants the seed for later."

On topic, what change in this case? That it's right to attack a fangirl on twitter who didn't fanfiction cast her in her desired role because she's above the role as a black woman?

Yes it plants seeds, but not in the way you think it does.

Updated On: 8/6/17 at 08:42 AM

Plannietink08 said: "BlackElleWoods said: "She was also unnecessarily rude to fans when they were asking her if she would tour with the color purple or play Celie again .



As a black woman, what are your opinions on her turning everything into a race argument? Specifically the fact she said she won't thank a white man for stereotyping black woman when she was mentioned as a muse but when she was mentioned as Meg with three other black women as the muses she actually thanked the white man?





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That was when the moment I unfollowed her . As soon as she got dream cast in the lead role her whole "stop stereotyping black women" argument went out the window and she was satisfied . One of her london co stars said the exact same thing to her about it as well . It was very disappointing for me .

Plannietink08 said: "

As a black woman, what are your opinions on her turning everything into a race argument? Specifically the fact she said she won't thank a white man for stereotyping black woman when she was mentioned as a muse but when she was mentioned as Meg with three other black women as the muses she actually thanked the white man? "

This is bad. As soon as she "hypothetically" gets the lead role as a black woman, nothing else matters anymore. Even her previous statement about black muses being "not done" is now out of the window, because when she is the black lead, it's also better to have black muses than to have anything white at all. This double agenda makes me nauseous and is the epitome of racism.

Updated On: 8/6/17 at 09:06 AM

There's one more thing I need to get off my chest.

The role of Meg in Hercules is a very specific type. Looks wise she is very feminine, attractive, sexy, slim, like a pin-up girl, and her poise and aura is also very sexy, mysterious, cynical but also witty, snarky and world-weary. Also her vocal type needs to be very specific, sharp and sexy.

I can imagine some fanfic/dreamcast people coming up with Laura Benanti as meg as she fits some of these traits. But Cynthia, TOTALLY the wrong type, she does not have any of these traits and has the wrong vocal type.

What on earth makes Cynthia think that anyone should dreamcast her in the role, other than the fact that it's a lead role and that she is black?

Because the idea is just ridiculous. The fact that everything in her mind and life is lead by race does not mean we have to take it seriously in the normal world. Cynthia as Meg, what the hell are we talking about? And how on earth can she demand fans on twitter to dreamcast her in something she is not by a mile?

I think what it comes down to is this; Cynthia views everything through race, other people realize there's more to reasoning and life in general.

Updated On: 8/6/17 at 10:03 AM

rosscoe(au) said: "Not wild at all , just calling out a racist. Simple as that.

Sometimes the truth hurts other times it sets you free



Calling a black person racist is also not correct. Prejudice and or bigoted yes. But racist is a completely different and more complex meaning that historically does not apply to black people. Especially in western society.



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I agree, bossbear206. However, like we've been discussing she actively asks everyone to go and read the entire conversation, which I did, and what I saw was Cynthia arguing the face off anyone who suggested her as a second rate character. She claims it's a race issue by placing her and four other women as a Muse but when Playbill published an article naming Cynthia as the lead role with five other black women as the Muses she retweets it and seems over the moon with the suggestion.







She actually said to a follower that she wouldn't thank someone for stereotyping black women but then proceeds to thank someone for stereotyping black women. Cynthia seems to forget all about equality and stereotyping black women as as long as she gets the lead. She uses inequality as a thinly veiled argument any injustice that places her below the top spot because she knows that no one can argue with privilidge or race. If that exact same follower who initially suggested her as a muse suggested her as Meg then she'd have been his best friend.







Its admirable that that she is so dedicated to creating equality but shouting about male privilege everytime someone doesn't water her ego flower isn't the way to achieve equality. Even her friends and colleagues are calling her out for it.







I personally know Daniel Boys, one of the performers who called her hypocrisy out, and he is one of the most loving and gentle people on the planet. He'd never actively encourage confrontation so for him to speak out about it, for me, speaks volumes about her character and her behaviour.

Updated On: 8/6/17 at 10:22 AM