To Kill A Mockingbird Recoups!

[bwayboy22]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 10:33am

TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD Recoups its Investment on Broadway

How wonderful! I wonder what their running costs are, especially with such a large cast.

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 10:39am

I thought Rudin made a big deal of never announcing if his shows recouped or not?

[OhHiii]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 10:42am

The lack of a Drama Desk nom yesterday made him nervous it would seem. As we can pretty much guess Ferryman will llikely have a harder time recouping and the nominators meet on Monday morning, he's showing the voters the show's strength.

[OhHiii]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 10:43am

I should also note that it's a gorgeous production and it deserves every bit of its success.

[SomethingPeculiar]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 12:04pm

poisonivy2 said: "I thought Rudin made a big deal of never announcing if his shows recouped or not?"

He's announced recoupment for lots of his shows. The generally held belief was that he didn't announce Dolly's recoupment because it took a long time to recoup. With any show, it's totally up to the producer if they announce or not. (i.e., Three Tall Women most likely recouped but didn't announce.)

[dramamama611]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 1:10pm

Made him nervous?  About what?  Tickets are selling just fine.  In fact, they are going like gangbusters.  While I'm sure he'd LIKE to get noms/wins - he'll be laughing all the way to the bank without them.

[OhHiii]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 1:13pm

dramamama611 said: "Made him nervous? About what? Tickets are selling just fine. In fact, they are going like gangbusters. While I'm sure he'd LIKE to get noms/wins - he'll be laughing all the way to the bank without them."

if you think Rudin doesn't chase awards regarless of its financial success, you're sorely mistaken. I'd be willing to bet he has a ton of ads in this Sunday's NYT pushing for noms that he knows he'll ultimately get.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 1:15pm

I didn't say he didn't WANT them....but if he'll "ultimately get them" why does he need to chase them?

[SomethingPeculiar]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 1:52pm

OhHiii said: "The lack of a Drama Desk nom yesterday made him nervous it would seem."

The timing is more related to the Tony nominators meeting on Monday. (Riedel actually first mentioned the recoupment last Friday, prior to DD and OCC noms.) And he probably still realizes that it's a crowded year for plays, and Mockingbird isn't a clear frontrunner in any category except Featured Actress. Sales are great, but a Best Play win could add an additional 6 months to the run.

[OhHiii]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 2:46pm

dramamama611 said: "I didn't say he didn't WANT them....but if he'll "ultimately get them" why does he need to chase them?"

Good question...ask him. He's done it for years. Spends exorbitant amounts of money on his plays every year even after they've closed months prior and won't make any more money.

[JSquared2]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 2:51pm

OhHiii said: "Good question...ask him. He's done it for years. Spends exorbitant amounts of money on his plays every year even after they've closed months prior and won't make any more money."

 

What "exorbitant amounts" of money has he spent on shows that have long since closed?  Do you have any examples?  Do you consider mailing a copy of a script along with a packet of reviews to the Tony voters an "exorbitant amount"?

[Wick3]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 2:55pm

SomethingPeculiar said: "poisonivy2 said: "I thought Rudin made a big deal of never announcing if his shows recouped or not?"

He's announced recoupment forlots of his shows.The generallyheld belief was that he didn't announceDolly's recoupment because it took a long time to recoup. With any show, it's totally up to the producer if they announce or not.(i.e.,Three Tall Womenmost likelyrecouped but didn't announce.)"

I thought Rudin announced that Hello Dolly recouped. I recall reading this article where investors weren't overjoyed with their investment on Hello Dolly since the return was only around 5% profit after recoupment. (In order to invest with Hello Dolly, you'd have to partake in a bundle with other plays with likelihood of recouping is unlikely.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeseymour/2018/08/27/hello-dolly-closes-with-broken-records-trickling-roi/#718b786b2dd0

In it describes how Rudin still spent over $150k in ads each week despite Dolly being practically sold out. 

[Kad]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 2:58pm

Rudin does what Rudin does, but in this case, it makes sense he'd champion its success- given the fact he had to go through a lawsuit to get it produced and then ended up in the news again for his draconian crackdown on community theatres producing the other adaptation of the story. 

Never hurts to remind people that your show is making lots of money. 

Updated On: 4/26/19 at 02:58 PM

[OhHiii]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 4:06pm

JSquared2 said: "OhHiii said: "Good question...ask him. He's done it for years. Spends exorbitant amounts of money on his plays every year even after they've closed months prior and won't make any more money."



What "exorbitant amounts" of money has he spent on shows that have long since closed? Do you have any examples? Do you consider mailing a copy of a script along with a packet of reviews to theTony voters an "exorbitant amount"?"

Pick up any New York Times Sunday Arts & Leisure section in the month of May and you'll see just how much money he spends on closed shows. Those ads ain't cheap.

[JSquared2]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 4:14pm

OhHiii said: "JSquared2 said: "OhHiii said: "Good question...ask him. He's done it for years. Spends exorbitant amounts of money on his plays every year even after they've closed months prior and won't make any more money."

What "exorbitant amounts" of money has he spent on shows that have long since closed? Do you have any examples? Do you consider mailing a copy of a script along with a packet of reviews to theTony voters an "exorbitant amount"?"

Pick up any New York Times Sunday Arts & Leisure section in the month of May and you'll see just how much money he spends on closed shows. Those ads ain't cheap."

And again, I'll ask you for any specific example of this.  There are no ads for closed Rudin shows in this Sundays A&L section --- plenty for his current shows, but nothing for a closed show.  Has he done this in past years?  If so, for which show(s)?

 

[OhHiii]

Posted: 4/26/19 at 4:31pm

JSquared2 said: "OhHiii said: "JSquared2 said: "OhHiii said: "Good question...ask him. He's done it for years. Spends exorbitant amounts of money on his plays every year even after they've closed months prior and won't make any more money."

What "exorbitant amounts" of money has he spent on shows that have long since closed? Do you have any examples? Do you consider mailing a copy of a script along with a packet of reviews to theTony voters an "exorbitant amount"?"

Pick up any New York Times Sunday Arts & Leisure section in the month of May and you'll see just how much money he spends on closed shows. Those ads ain't cheap."

And again, I'll ask you for any specific exampleof this. There are no ads for closed Rudin shows in this Sundays A&L section --- plenty for his current shows, but nothing for a closed show. Has he done this in past years? If so, for which show(s)?

"

Wrong. Waverly Gallery is on Page 4. :) (The issue running this coming Sunday)

Updated On: 4/26/19 at 04:31 PM