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#26

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

Was there ever talk of High School Musical coming to Broadway? That $#*& was incredibly popular and I know there were stage procutions, but it sorta faded out.

I don't think you can reproduce the same thing on stage with an all new cast. Jane Lynch cannot be matched. Fans are used to these characters and might not want to go see people they don't have any connections on stage.
#27

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

1. Do we really know if GLEE has done anything to entice more people to b'way shows? I don't see sold out crowds at the majority of theaters this summer. Just because they are buying the MUSIC of Glee...isn't proof that it is bringing anyone new to the box office.

2. I totally agree with the poster, that the majority of folks that will spend money to see this will be expecting to see THE cast of Glee. MOST of that cast is most likely not prepared for 8 shows a week. Yet alone consider that their filming schedule wouldn't allow for a very long run.

3. PLEASE don't do this. PLEASE????
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#28

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

How would you prove such a thing? In any case, the fact that they were on the Tonys means somebody thinks so, though the people who put on the Tonys have been wrong before, heaven knows.
#29

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

I demand RobbieJ as "Fake Jane Lynch"!
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#30

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

ANY increase in attendance could be attributed to Glee, especially if they are younger than normal. But my point is: there has not been a huge increase in attendance...so they aren't impacting bway at all. (At least not yet.)
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#31

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

I'm not following your logic. Any increase in Broadway attendance overall could be attributed to Glee, but because there hasn't been any increase, then obviously they aren't impacting Broadway in any way? I think there's a few more factors involved that need to be looked at before either of those conclusions can be arrived at Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.
#32

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

But you would also need to look at, and probably account more for, numbers on the road. That is where Glee would have far more of an effect, especially in the economic times we are currently in. The average Glee fan is not going to be able to convince their parents to spend the money on a pricey trip to New York and Broadway, but would have a far greater chance at convincing them to buy tickets to whatever is coming through their town.

As far as would people see Glee without the actors they recognize, I'm sure the same was said of High School Musical when it went out on a national tour minus Efron and the others. People still went to see it, and it has become a very successful title for summer stock and community theatre.
#33

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

I don't think Glee really turns people on to musical theatre, tbh. The show itself has very few showtunes, and when they do the non-MT fans tend to complain about them.
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#34

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

^ I agree SporkGoddess. Glee rarely uses showtunes and when they do they are usually from older shows not on Broadway anymore.
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#35

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

Glee turned me onto showtunes! I heard Defying Gravity and decided I wanted to see Wicked so my dad took me to see it for my birthday. After that, I was hooked on theatre and showtunes. I don't really listen to any other kind of music now.
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#37

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

"Glee turned me onto showtunes!"

Please go away.
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#38

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

Glee rarely uses showtunes and when they do they are usually from older shows not on Broadway anymore.

Those "older shows" are infinitely better than some of the dreck currently running on Broadway. Seriously, how can you act like Glee is beneath you as a musical theatre snob while begrudging the show for using classic Broadway standards? We're lucky Glee showcases Broadway with Maybe This Time and Rose's Turn instead of Memphis and The Addams Family. In fact, I just had to check IBDB to figure out what few new shows are on Broadway with original scores. It's either the "old shows", the blockbusters, or covers of Green Day, the Four Seasons, ABBA, and 80s hair bands.
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#39

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

Orangeskittle - I am not begruding Glee for using older showtimes. I am saying that the show's general audience is not going to be familiar with the older showtunes. The show's audience consists primarily of teens who are not familar with the older Broadway classics like Cabaret and Gypsy. And I am not acting like Glee is beneath me, I am simply stating that by using older showtunes Glee is not helping attract audiences. These songs are simply, in your words, "showcasing Broadway."
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#40

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

If Broadway were smarter (and frankly, Broadway has been pretty smart over the last decade) they would eagerly embrace Glee.

The invitation hasn't been made, so Ryan feels no obligation to boost Broadway. He does, I feel, do something positive for people who want to perform and the parents who don't understand them, but not enough for Broadway.

And as for the "Please no Glee on Broadway", people on this site screamed "Please no Disney" on Broadway until they dropped down "The Lion King."

MAYBE Glee on Broadway could be done well. If the Broadway producers approached Fox and brought along some of the crown jewel directors and designers and, rarest of them all, a great librettist, who knows what could come out of such a fusion?
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#41

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

I am a bit of a "Gleek", but I do agree, it would so not work on broadway. But Glee does help broadway, even if it does only use songs from established musicals, not everyone wants to go see shows like Sondheim. I went to see wicked (it was my first show) and it got me into theatre and showtunes, so in a way, it does help. :)
#42

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

Wouldn't it be a licensing nightmare to get the rights to do all of the songs from other shows? I would think that just the fees they'd have to pay would make it cost-prohibitive. The whole thing with Glee is it's NOT original songs but arrangements of songs from other actual shows.
#44

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

Although I agree Glee wouldn't work on Broadway, it doesn't mean it can't be a good thing. When teenagers see some of the Showtunes performed on Glee, it can get them interested in the bigger shows, such as Wicked and Les Mis. This could then spark an interest in Showtunes and Broadway and lead them to seeing more non-mainstream shows,such as Memphis and Next to Normal.

Updated On: 8/9/10 at 06:48 AM

#45

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

I am simply stating that by using older showtunes Glee is not helping attract audiences. These songs are simply, in your words, "showcasing Broadway."

They show the best of the best of Broadway, some of the blockbuster favorites...and this is a bad thing because why? Because they don't do Next to Normal and In the Heights? Acquiring the licensing and distribution rights for new shows like those would be so restrictive that it wouldn't be worth their effort.

How do you know that using older showtunes won't attract audiences? Maybe there isn't an immediate correlation with increased Broadway sales, but how will theatre benefit in the long run from a generation of kids thinking that show choir and musical theatre are cool?
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#46

Ugh. Ryan Murphy wants to bring GLEE to Broadway.

"They show the best of the best of Broadway, some of the blockbuster favorites...and this is a bad thing because why? Because they don't do Next to Normal and In the Heights? Acquiring the licensing and distribution rights for new shows like those would be so restrictive that it wouldn't be worth their effort.

How do you know that using older showtunes won't attract audiences? Maybe there isn't an immediate correlation with increased Broadway sales, but how will theatre benefit in the long run from a generation of kids thinking that show choir and musical theatre are cool?"

It's not a bad thing. I am not saying they should use songs from current shows because, as you said, there is not much new out with an original score. And you are right, the older show tunes may attract audiences to Broadway in general. However, if they are not singing songs from shows currently on Broadway they are not attracting audiences to particular Broadway shows.

For example if they were to perform songs from Next to Normal or In the Heights they would be making the audiences more familiar with modern Broadway shows which may bring more audiences to these shows specifically. You were right about the licensing though and it would not be worth their effort. I am trying to say that Glee is not helping attract audiences to specific shows currently on Broadway. Even if they were to perform songs from modern shows, there is no way of telling whether or not this would help bring audiences to Broadway, it is merely speculation.


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#48

Goddamn it, I thought GLEE Broadway wasn't happening.

Murphy better watch it or Glee's going to reach its saturation point and everyone will be sick off it (Granted there are those who already are) Time to pull back on some of the Gleeking and concentrate on the sophomore season. It's a TV show and should remain as such...did they learn nothing from that ill-fated American Idol stage venture?
#49

Goddamn it, I thought GLEE Broadway wasn't happening.

I may be burned at the stake for this....

But, I think Glee would be fine as a show made for community and high school theatres. Kind of liek how High School Musical 1 and 2 are. THAT would get kids into theatre. If they enjoy their experience they may audition for future shows and go see more shows..

One of my old schools did High School Musical a few years after I left. I talked to one of the directors and she said close to 200 kids auditioned. (There are about 2,000 kids in the school)
#50

Goddamn it, I thought GLEE Broadway wasn't happening.

The only way I'd see this if there was a stellar cast.

Maybe this is what is being planned instead of another GLEE tour...? Could we be seeing the GLEE cast on Broadway?

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