Why did Grey Garden's close?- Page 3

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:27pm

"jv- Mouses Magic is just bitter because The Little Mermaid is apparently the worst thing since Paris Hilton's debut album."

Oh. Poor thing. That's what out of town tryouts are for though.

And Mouses Magic,
There are several "commerical" shows I've enjoyed. And there are several "artsy" shows I have not enjoyed. Caroline, Or Change was one of them. I admired the talent and work that went into it. I just thought it didn't work as a whole. I didn't say it was flat out "boring." Updated On: 8/9/07 at 11:27 PM

[Not Barker, Todd.]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:28pm

Oh come on Mouses, what's wrong with a little ribbing? Take a chill pill.

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:30pm

I get ribbed a lot and I even spell "too" the right way.

[wickedfan]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:32pm

Mouses Magic, you did the wrong thing by replying negatively on a thread without supporting your statement. Everyone else here stated why they loved or hated the show, and also with personal interests aside, gave what they thought the politics were for the show's closing. Don't act like a helpless little victim. You detracted this thread from its original purpose by having the NEED to state your opinion in a blunt and immature manor, in hopes that other posters would back you up and the thread would become some heated debate between Grey Gardens lovers and haters. Little did you know that none of them came to support you and you were left to fend for yourself against us Grey Gardens lovers. We wouldn't have been so viscious if you had decided to conduct your post in a sufficient manor. Not to mention, was your post really NEEDED? No, I don't think so.

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:36pm

And there WERE some nice things to look at. Like the projections of the loveable critters that the Edies lived with. Surely that would have tickled Uncle Walt's fancy.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:38pm

Ah, those cats. They were adorable.

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:41pm

Yes. The raccoons scared the hell out of me, though. I just don't like raccoons.
Maybe Kelly and Lou will lend Disney the projection reel from "Entering Grey Gardens" when they decide to butcher Snow White. Or Oliver in Company.

[Mouses Magic]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:42pm

If you want my reason here it is...Im a technical design theater student. Shows like this, don't interest me. Just like a PAR 64, or a Fresnel, or a ESR wouldn't interest most of you. I was making a point. I think its hypocritical that those who claim to be cultured for enjoying shows that "the average" tourist doesn't enjoy, can't seem to support or understand that EVERYONE has their right to their own opinion. Just seems silly in my mind. Once something goes commercial, most on this board turn on it because "they are above that", which has been the core of many heated topics on this forum. My point is, don't jump on people and see who can come up with the "most witty" put down just because they disagree from your thoughts.

[Not Barker, Todd.]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:42pm

The Aristocats?

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:45pm

I forgot about that one! The Aristocats! Of course. Doesn't Sterling Holloway voice a raccoon in that one? Or is it a rat that one of The Nine Old Men drew out of proportion? I can't remember.

[Not Barker, Todd.]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:45pm

Ok, well this is pointless.

I blame the only thing to blame when show gets such great reveiws. The marketing.

ETA: There's a talking mouse.

Updated On: 8/9/07 at 11:45 PM

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:46pm

I know. Enough with Disney.

My final answer-
Spring Awakening and the marketing.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:48pm

With all due respect jv, how did Spring Awakening cause Grey Gardens to close?

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:50pm

Tonys. Had SA never opened, Grey Gardens would have won Best Musical. Updated On: 8/9/07 at 11:50 PM

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:52pm

jv, I doubt Grey Gardens would have done much better if it had won more Tonys. I don't think Spring Awakening (or any show) can be blamed for Grey Gardens' closing.

[jv92]

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:53pm

Oh, I don't know about that. Best Musical certainly can help a show having some trouble. It did for... Spring Awakening!

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:01am

Spring Awakening was doing rather well before it won Best Musical. Plus, it is much more marketable than Grey Gardens.

And Best Musical doesn't always help shows. Passion, anyone?

[jv92]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:03am

Passion. Yes. Very true. I stand corrected, slightly.

[wickedfan]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:12am

Sorry, had to change it.

[justme2]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:25am

the pressure finally got to you?


edit: wait, that wasn't your error, was it wickedfan?

Updated On: 8/10/07 at 12:25 AM

[ahmelie]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 2:12am

I don't think Grey Gardens is going to do any better in London, if it does actually end up going there.

The Kennedys are the closest thing America has to royalty. If there were any tourists going to see Grey Gardens they were there because they recognized it had something to do with the Kennedys, IMHO. That is lost once it moves overseas.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 3:16am

Okay, first off, Passion is what I would call a highly intellectual piece of theater not designed to sell to the average tourist. Grey Gardens I would not. It's a clever show, yes, but in a navel gazing sort of way. The entire first act could be dismissed with only the loss of a few good songs and a gratuitous performance.

The reason Grey Gardens closed is because it is absolutely undramatic. The characters reach no conclusions, the story goes nowhere. What is good about Grey Gardens is that it's such a unique and progressive piece of musical theater. If you care for such things (and I do) then there's a lot to admire about the show. For a casual theatergoer/tourist, I can't imagine why they'd pick this show over quite a number of other shows that have more to offer.

"Hm, should we go see the show with the flying witches or the one with the two bitchy old ladies who complain to one another all night?"

I know Grey Gardens is the trendy latest tragic victim of the dunces who populate Legally Blonde and The Lion King and leave interesting shows to die in the sun--but come on. The reviews were mixed, the show got lots of attention, it will be well remembered. The end.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 3:29am

I didn't compare the craft of Passion to that of Grey Gardens, I was merely stating that IF Grey Gardens had won Best Musical, the award probably wouldn't have helped, as the same happened with Passion.

[TimesSqHoJos]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 8:46am

but one of the higher-up names in the GG cast told a friend that she knew of no plans to go to London with the show and that the story was a Page Six plant, which should give everyone some clue as to which camp Reidel has set down his stakes.

I hope this isn't true because I loved the show and would love to see it in London, but it sounds like it's all just PR. Have any of these London producers who the Post "quoted" as being unconcerned about Christine's short run in Applause ever been identified by name?

[NDR]

Posted: 8/10/07 at 9:10am

I haven't read all the posts on this, but I think one of the reasons GG closed was because of its lack of ability to draw people in based on purely the premise of the show. I was in NYC, saw 4 different show and not once did I seriously consider GG. I guess mainly because it just didn't jump out and say "I'm funny" or "I'm dramatic" - it said "I'm here".
Not bad mouthing just stating my opinion.