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#51

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:27pm

"jv- Mouses Magic is just bitter because The Little Mermaid is apparently the worst thing since Paris Hilton's debut album."

Oh. Poor thing. That's what out of town tryouts are for though.

And Mouses Magic,
There are several "commerical" shows I've enjoyed. And there are several "artsy" shows I have not enjoyed. Caroline, Or Change was one of them. I admired the talent and work that went into it. I just thought it didn't work as a whole. I didn't say it was flat out "boring."

Updated On: 8/9/07 at 11:27 PM

#52

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:28pm

Oh come on Mouses, what's wrong with a little ribbing? Take a chill pill.

PLEASE! Do not post anything negative or dramatic! DidYouReallyHearMe has LOST the ability to ignore such posts and he will comment! Please, help him.

With Clay Aiken in Spamalot, all of Broadway is singing a collective "There! Right! There!" -Me-

"Not Barker, Todd is the only person I've ever known who could imitate Katherine Hepburn...in print." -nmartin-

#53

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:30pm

I get ribbed a lot and I even spell "too" the right way.

#54

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:32pm

Mouses Magic, you did the wrong thing by replying negatively on a thread without supporting your statement. Everyone else here stated why they loved or hated the show, and also with personal interests aside, gave what they thought the politics were for the show's closing. Don't act like a helpless little victim. You detracted this thread from its original purpose by having the NEED to state your opinion in a blunt and immature manor, in hopes that other posters would back you up and the thread would become some heated debate between Grey Gardens lovers and haters. Little did you know that none of them came to support you and you were left to fend for yourself against us Grey Gardens lovers. We wouldn't have been so viscious if you had decided to conduct your post in a sufficient manor. Not to mention, was your post really NEEDED? No, I don't think so.

"Sing the words, Patti!!!!" Stephen Sondheim to Patti LuPone.

#55

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:36pm

And there WERE some nice things to look at. Like the projections of the loveable critters that the Edies lived with. Surely that would have tickled Uncle Walt's fancy.

#56

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:38pm

Ah, those cats. They were adorable.

I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

#57

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:41pm

Yes. The raccoons scared the hell out of me, though. I just don't like raccoons.
Maybe Kelly and Lou will lend Disney the projection reel from "Entering Grey Gardens" when they decide to butcher Snow White. Or Oliver in Company.

#58

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:42pm

If you want my reason here it is...Im a technical design theater student. Shows like this, don't interest me. Just like a PAR 64, or a Fresnel, or a ESR wouldn't interest most of you. I was making a point. I think its hypocritical that those who claim to be cultured for enjoying shows that "the average" tourist doesn't enjoy, can't seem to support or understand that EVERYONE has their right to their own opinion. Just seems silly in my mind. Once something goes commercial, most on this board turn on it because "they are above that", which has been the core of many heated topics on this forum. My point is, don't jump on people and see who can come up with the "most witty" put down just because they disagree from your thoughts.

#59

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:42pm

The Aristocats?

#60

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:45pm

I forgot about that one! The Aristocats! Of course. Doesn't Sterling Holloway voice a raccoon in that one? Or is it a rat that one of The Nine Old Men drew out of proportion? I can't remember.

#61

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:45pm

Ok, well this is pointless.

I blame the only thing to blame when show gets such great reveiws. The marketing.

ETA: There's a talking mouse.

Updated On: 8/9/07 at 11:45 PM

#62

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:46pm

I know. Enough with Disney.

My final answer-
Spring Awakening and the marketing.

#63

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:48pm

With all due respect jv, how did Spring Awakening cause Grey Gardens to close?

I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

#64

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:50pm

Tonys. Had SA never opened, Grey Gardens would have won Best Musical.

Updated On: 8/9/07 at 11:50 PM

#65

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:52pm

jv, I doubt Grey Gardens would have done much better if it had won more Tonys. I don't think Spring Awakening (or any show) can be blamed for Grey Gardens' closing.

I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

#66

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:53pm

Oh, I don't know about that. Best Musical certainly can help a show having some trouble. It did for... Spring Awakening!

#67

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:01am

Spring Awakening was doing rather well before it won Best Musical. Plus, it is much more marketable than Grey Gardens.

And Best Musical doesn't always help shows. Passion, anyone?

I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

#68

re: Why did Grey Garden's close?

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:03am

Passion. Yes. Very true. I stand corrected, slightly.

#69

re: Why did Grey Gardens close?

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:12am

Sorry, had to change it.

"Sing the words, Patti!!!!" Stephen Sondheim to Patti LuPone.

#70

re: Why did Grey Gardens close?

Posted: 8/10/07 at 12:25am

the pressure finally got to you?

edit: wait, that wasn't your error, was it wickedfan?

"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."

Updated On: 8/10/07 at 12:25 AM

#71

re: Why did Grey Gardens close?

Posted: 8/10/07 at 2:12am

I don't think Grey Gardens is going to do any better in London, if it does actually end up going there.

The Kennedys are the closest thing America has to royalty. If there were any tourists going to see Grey Gardens they were there because they recognized it had something to do with the Kennedys, IMHO. That is lost once it moves overseas.

Theatre is a safe place to do the unsafe things that need to be done. -John Patrick Shanley

#72

re: Why did Grey Gardens close?

Posted: 8/10/07 at 3:16am

Okay, first off, Passion is what I would call a highly intellectual piece of theater not designed to sell to the average tourist. Grey Gardens I would not. It's a clever show, yes, but in a navel gazing sort of way. The entire first act could be dismissed with only the loss of a few good songs and a gratuitous performance.

The reason Grey Gardens closed is because it is absolutely undramatic. The characters reach no conclusions, the story goes nowhere. What is good about Grey Gardens is that it's such a unique and progressive piece of musical theater. If you care for such things (and I do) then there's a lot to admire about the show. For a casual theatergoer/tourist, I can't imagine why they'd pick this show over quite a number of other shows that have more to offer.

"Hm, should we go see the show with the flying witches or the one with the two bitchy old ladies who complain to one another all night?"

I know Grey Gardens is the trendy latest tragic victim of the dunces who populate Legally Blonde and The Lion King and leave interesting shows to die in the sun--but come on. The reviews were mixed, the show got lots of attention, it will be well remembered. The end.

yr ronin,
joey

#73

re: Why did Grey Gardens close?

Posted: 8/10/07 at 3:29am

I didn't compare the craft of Passion to that of Grey Gardens, I was merely stating that IF Grey Gardens had won Best Musical, the award probably wouldn't have helped, as the same happened with Passion.

I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

#74

I'm hesitant to share this

Posted: 8/10/07 at 8:46am

but one of the higher-up names in the GG cast told a friend that she knew of no plans to go to London with the show and that the story was a Page Six plant, which should give everyone some clue as to which camp Reidel has set down his stakes.

I hope this isn't true because I loved the show and would love to see it in London, but it sounds like it's all just PR. Have any of these London producers who the Post "quoted" as being unconcerned about Christine's short run in Applause ever been identified by name?

#75

I'm hesitant to share this

Posted: 8/10/07 at 9:10am

I haven't read all the posts on this, but I think one of the reasons GG closed was because of its lack of ability to draw people in based on purely the premise of the show. I was in NYC, saw 4 different show and not once did I seriously consider GG. I guess mainly because it just didn't jump out and say "I'm funny" or "I'm dramatic" - it said "I'm here".
Not bad mouthing just stating my opinion.

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