Wicked: "Eh" or "Ick?"- Page 7

[Emutional]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 11:25pm

"Hey, even fluffy chick flicks have a bit of depth, and there are some good ones. (If you want to tell me Pretty Woman sucks, run away first) Wicked isn't on the intellectual level of some other things, though (Caroline). I was saying that it's easily likeable for tourists looking for fun and people unfamiliar with musical theatre, that's what I mean by 'fluff'. It's not a bad thing."

my apologies for missinterpeting.

when you think about it, people, unless coming to new york to SEE caroline, aren't looking for what caroline brings. they're looking for something fun and nice and upbeat...which is probably why hairspray did so well.

[insomniak]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 11:27pm

Exactly! I've been saying that forever, that's why megamusicals and upbeat shows do so well, that's what you're in the mood for on vacation.

And no, I don't think non-happy-go-lucky shows are bad, I'm just trying to explain the Wicked phenomenon. Updated On: 8/24/04 at 11:27 PM

[uncageg]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 11:36pm

I get the Wicked thing...but I was on vacation When I saw WICKED...and It really was not the best thing I saw. But, yes, vacationers want to see what's big!

[smellslikepoo]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:06am

Wicked is the armpit of america!!!

[uncageg]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 1:23am

Updated On: 8/25/04 at 01:23 AM

[bwaybaby2]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 2:00am

Wicked is amazing... the music is the music of a new, fresh, much needed pop musical. Its just amazing. i'm seeing it in 3 days and i cant wait. broadway needed a little freshening up and i think it got it with wicked

[bythesword84]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 2:03am

I'll go with "eh" because i generally avoid the over abundance of wickedness on the boards.

[ChiChi]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 4:26am

Well said.

[insomniak]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 6:40am

"I'll go with "eh" because i generally avoid the over abundance of wickedness on the boards."

It's sad when people let their minds be made up soley by the opinions of others. Why does it matter if everyone else likes it? It's ridiculous when people hate something only because it's popular.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 10:44am

"...the music is the music of a new, fresh, much needed pop musical."

No. Seriously.

[Zola Q. LaPlaya]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 11:07am

I was eh for about a month. Now, I'm a huge ICK.

I was gleeful at the Tony Award going to Avenue Q. There was so much schadenfreude going on in my row it was hard to restrain myself from screaming "Wicked Sucks!" when the award came up.

[Plum]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:03pm

Ah, sweet memories. My dad was looking at me like I was completely insane when Avenue Q won. Then again, hopping around the room in glee will get you looks like that. :)

I have to say, though, with the power of hindsight and having seen Caroline, or Change not long after the awards, I would have given the Tony to that show.

[HunterFosterIsMyGod]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:07pm

those are my exact thoughts. aw.

[uncageg]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:11pm

Ditto

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 1:39pm

ick then and ick now.



**spoiler**



had they left her dead, i would have been all eh.

[Derek2]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 1:59pm

What won the Drama Desk for Best Musical?

[Derek2]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 2:04pm

Also...Im not saying this to start anything, Im just curious, I swear. All Im hearing is "Wicked sucks" "I hate Wicked" but Im not hearing why. Im just wondering what you all dont like about it. I know u dont have to like it, I just wonder as to y. Is it the score, sets, costumes, acting? Ill be honest, I just dont like Avenue Q because it won the Tony lol. I know that isnt right but its true. So I said it, now we can all be honest :). Lets not argue, lets discuss lol

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 2:15pm

I've actually written a couple of long, detailed posts about why I didn't like Wicked that maybe I will search later and repost here. I consider Wicked the worst kind of failure, the kind of failure that only comes from seeing a huge potential almost completely wasted and destroyed.

[Derek2]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 2:17pm

ouch lol, well at least ur honest :)

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 2:51pm

It's interesting that people read anything negative about Wicked as "bashing." I have actually a very carefully considered critique of that show based on the utter disappointment with what I saw onstage. Not only do I feel it blew an absolutely perfect opportunity to make a great musical out of some very clever source material, I feel it isn't even successful at what people claim it's good at, these people including but not limited to Idina's comment at the Tony's that it celebrates the friendship of women. No, I don't think it even manages to do that half-succesfully.

[Zola Q. LaPlaya]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 3:12pm

Derek: I find the score completely uninspired. Granted not every song has to be an out-and-out winner, but a new low was reached with that television commercial jingle "One Fine Day in the Emerald City." To me, it is a show that was all about the trappings and forgot the essential elements that make theater magical. I could have been watching holograms performing the show and would have gotten as much from it.

[Derek2]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 3:15pm

See this is better. Now we're discussing and not arguing. Isnt it better people? I happen to be a huge Wicked fan and Im not at all bothered by this. Everyone has their own opinion and can state it, whether it be good or bad. As long as we discuss like humans and not animals :)

[formanatrix]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 3:48pm

I find Wicked to be a sucessful attempt of taking the idea of a book and turning it into something completely different. If you read the book you will understand how the musical does celebrate friendship. The musical did make the story more family oriented, if the book was put on the stage it would have been made for people 15 or 16 and up, this version is for kids around 7 and up. I also enjoyed how wicked brought the story closer to the Wizard of Oz, instead of being a little side plot. The book is more political based, while the musical is very character and emotionally based. The whole plot with the Lion, Tin Man, and Scarecrow was done much better in the musical than it was in the book, and that was one of my favorite things about the play. So wicked gets a "wow" from me, not an "ick, or an "eh"

[Derek2]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 3:52pm

Yeah me too. As I said b4, it must be very difficult to adapt a novel into a musical, specially knowing how tough ur crowd is lol. I think they did a very good job with it. Even the Gregory likes it! A wow from me too

[Unknown User]

Posted: 8/25/04 at 3:54pm

actually, the book doesn't really celebrate a friendship. glinda actually doesn't have that big of a part in the book. it's more about elphabas life.