Terror in Paris- Page 3
Terror in Paris
#50Paris
Posted: 11/14/15 at 12:39pm
MikeInTheDistrict said: "One thing I hope (though probably futile) is that neither French official nor the media release the identities of the assailants, in the same way we recently saw with the Oregon shooter last month."
Well, that would be up to the media. So, not going to happen...
#52Paris
Posted: 11/14/15 at 1:23pm
The sad thing about terrorism is the way it kills moderation. This is the aim of terror: to provoke a cycle of violent reactions so that further violence can itself be "justified." The aim of militant Sunni Muslim extremism, whether it is ISIS, Al Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood, is to provoke war: war with other, non-extremist Sunnis; war with Shiites (and I am no fan of the mullahs of Shiite Iran); war with the Kurds; war with Israelis, war with Americans, war with Russians; and now war on the streets of Western Europe. This extremism is a cancer within Sunni Islam, and in the end only Sunni Muslims can eradicate it. The questions are: When will they and how will they?
Meanwhile, these Sunni splinter groups wreak worldwide havoc, blackening the name of all Muslims. When terrorism attacks the people who are urging peace and understanding between nations and religious groups. as the mostly young, mostly liberal concertgoers of Paris were last night, as New Yorkers were on 9/11, as Israeli members of Peace Now experienced during the Second Intifada, what happens is that the terrorists succeed in killing off the voices of moderation.
The terrorists get what they want: an Orwellian state of almost-permanent war.
Margo319
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/15
#54Paris
Posted: 11/14/15 at 1:35pm
I wonder if it matters really. The motives are so different. These people died for a cause however ridiculous and twisted we see their beliefs. They are part of a propaganda movement using the greatest tool propaganda has ever had, modern media, to advance a 7th century belief system.
ghostlight2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
#57Paris
Posted: 11/14/15 at 2:24pm
"Probably not. I mean, it's not like people are trying to gather facts here and just send their vague "thoughts and prayers," so once you go deeper than that, people will share their thoughts on the matter, and others will disagree."
I'm not talking about discussion about the event. I'm talking about doing away with the bickering between posters that has exactly nothing to do with it, the nonsense between Namo, songanddanceman, and Roxy.
#60Paris
Posted: 11/14/15 at 4:19pm
A sobering article in Politico about how terror changes everyone. Even my FB friends who resisted the
"Je suis Charlie" social-media movement have shaded their profile pictures with French flags this time.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/on-terror-were-all-right-wingers-now-213358
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#61Paris
Posted: 11/14/15 at 4:44pm
I'm frustrated by bromides. I'm frustrated by people who want to say the same old political BS right after saying they aren't political. I'm tired of treating each new horrific act as if it were completely unthinkable because the culture's collective memory has a freshness date shorter than a bunch of bananas. I'm tired of selective outrage in the US. I'm tired of opportunists who want to set of verbal grenades and who set things up so they can't "hear" criticism of their actions, on the small scale among posters on this board, on the grand scale terrorist cells. I'm tired of US Americans taking about 5 seconds before making attacks in Paris all about them.
Im tired of attacks on education. I'm tired of attacks on art and historical relics. I'm tired of beautiful images like the Eiffel Tower peace sign being criticized because it wouldn't reach Isis. I'm tired of attacks on women
Im tired of the right in this country because it wasn't very long ago that they were disappearing the word French from fries and then the same people criticizing Obama for not going to the Hebdo rally.
Thats what hat my contemplation brought up. How deeply have you thought, Lard?
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#62Paris
Posted: 11/14/15 at 5:16pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/opinion/the-exploitation-of-paris.html
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#67Paris
Posted: 11/15/15 at 5:18pm
France just bombed ISIS.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/middleeast/france-announces-raqqa-airstrikes-on-isis/index.html
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#69Paris
Posted: 11/16/15 at 12:07pm
It's so easy being Sarah Schulman. I love her intellect, but her smug belief that anything Western/American/European/Israeli/white is bad and anything opposed to any of those is either good or understandable is as predictable as it is wearying.
Meanwhile, Francois Hollande is finding his inner Winston Churchill:
"France is at war. These attacks were war. It was an attack against our values, against our youth and our way of life. Since the beginning of the year, this organisation has attacked Paris, Denmark, Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Libya. Every single day they massacre and oppress people. That’s the reason why we need to destroy ISIS. That’s something which involves the whole international community. I’ve asked for the UN security council to get together as soon as possible in order to mark a resolution for the joint will to fight terrorism. We will pursue these attacks throughout the coming weeks. On Thursday, aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle will go to the Eastern Mediterranean, and that will treble our capacity for action. There will be no pity and no fear. The ones who organised the Paris attacks must realise their crimes, rather than making France fear responding, reinforces our determination to destroy them."
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#72Paris
Posted: 11/16/15 at 1:00pm
Well, maybe not easy. But definitely predicable.
Following Hollande's speech, the entire French Assembly stood and sang "La Marseillaise":
https://amp.twimg.com/v/8e0ac5ff-9b11-44e6-bafa-68fcc716f2f7
#73Paris
Posted: 11/16/15 at 4:26pm
A new Islamic State video threatens a Paris-style attack on Washington. Read on at the link below.
With Metro security stepping up security, thank goodness I teleworked from home today. In further fear-mongering, governors rush to slam door on Syrian refugees. More below.
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
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