2013 Awards Season Thread- Page 7

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/20/14 at 6:16pm

Too bad so many of the voters don't see the films. I guess there's no way to force them.

[WiCkEDrOcKS]

Posted: 1/26/14 at 2:17am

Cuarón wins the DGA. No real surprise there.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/01/25/directors-guild-award-winners-2014/


At this point, I do think 12 YEARS A SLAVE will win Best Picture, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Supporting Actress. There are a few other categories it has a strong shot at winning (Ejiofor should absolutely win Best Actor...I'm pulling for an Adrien Brody-esque upset), but the most awards of the night will go to GRAVITY, for sure. I think the voters will see GRAVITY as more of a technical achievement than anything else and will reward it accordingly. But I still say the big prize goes to 12YAS. Updated On: 1/26/14 at 02:17 AM

[best12bars]

Posted: 1/26/14 at 7:41am

Cuarón's win is not a surprise, and I do think he'll get the Oscar (deservedly).

But I think it's a three-way race for Best Picture, between 12 Years a Slave, American Hustle, and third-place wild card Gravity. It will all depend on how the votes split.

But with this new, stupidly complex and unnecessary vote tallying, it's anybody's guess. And there's something seriously wrong with that bizarre system.

[east side story]

Posted: 1/26/14 at 11:26am

American Hustle's buzz has begun to fizzle out. Once more people actually saw the film, they did not get all the hullabaloo. Yes, it received many Oscar nominations. However, it would be lucky if they took home one award come Oscar night.

I'm currently hoping for a Gravity sweep, and DiCaprio win.

[tazber]

Posted: 1/26/14 at 1:05pm

I just can't see them giving it to 12YAS. Too dark, too brutal.

I think Cuaron is winning and I think American Hustle is going to win Picture.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 1/26/14 at 1:09pm

American Hustle has to do well at the BAFTAs. Many Academy members in that body and they were the biggest indicator the film would do well in Oscar nominations. But I easily see it going this way:

Best Film 12 Years a Slave
Best British Film Gravity
Best Director Alfonso Cuaron

With 12 YAS getting wins possibly in 3 acting categories at the BAFTAs. Hustle may get Screenplay.

Didn't the Oscars recently came out with a statement they would never have a Best Picture tie after the PGA kerfuffle? I think they were genuinely afraid the spectre of a tie would effect the voting and strategies voters have.

I still think Best Actor is wide open and BAFTA will be no help because they omitted Dallas Buyer's Club.

It's weird to think of classic Best Picture/Best Director split (Argo had the rare, director not nominated but won Best Picture so it is not the most fitting example). It happened with Fosse/The Godfather and Soderbergh/Gladiator and other times, but it seems the guilds that often indicate the Oscars have avoided that. But I wouldn't mind it though I think because both Gravity and 12YAS both came out around the same time in October that people have always been under the assumption that just one would be at the top because of date versus a December release film (Hustle in this case). But I think both have strong cases going into Oscar night.

Updated On: 1/26/14 at 01:09 PM

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 1/26/14 at 3:01pm

Yeah, I'm gonna say AMERICAN HUSTLE is out of the race (though, oh how happy would I be if it wins), and it's GRAVITY VS. 12 YEARS A SLAVE. I think as of now it's 12 YEARS for Picture and GRAVITY for Director but anything could happen in that Best Picture race, how awesome! Either they'll match Picture and Director, so that means GRAVITY would win; or it's a 12 YEARS/GRAVITY split; or 12 YEARS and GRAVITY split the vote and AMERICAN HUSTLE emerges as the winner. Who knows? I think we won't really know who the winner is until the name is read. Very different from previous years when things like ARGO, THE ARTIST, SLUMDOG, etc were big locks.

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 1/27/14 at 11:24am

So far my favorite movie of the past year (and there were several I liked very much) is HER. Tender, surprising, surprisingly non-formulaic, beautifully played, equal parts charming and thought provoking, very funny, completely original, stellar production values, cinematography, and music.... fully realized. Not only Jonze's finest but, in short, a masterpiece.

[best12bars]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 5:07pm

The BAFTAs were given out today:

Best Film
12 Years a Slave

Best Animated Film
Frozen

Best Director
Alfonso Cuaron - Gravity

Best Actor
Chiwetel Ejiofor - 12 Years a Slave

Best Actress
Cate Blanchett - Blue Jasmine

Best Supporting Actor
Barkhad Abdi - Captain Phillips

Best Supporting Actress
Jennifer Lawrence - American Hustle

Best Original Screenplay
American Hustle

Best Adapted Screenplay
Philomena

Best Original Music
Gravity

Best Editing
Rush

Best Cinematography
Gravity

Best Production Design
The Great Gatsby

Best Costume Design
The Great Gatsby

Best Makeup & Hair
American Hustle

Best Sound
Gravity

Best Special Visual Effects
Gravity

Best Foreign Language Film
The Great Beauty

Best Documentary
The Act of Killing

Best Short Animation
Sleeping with the Fishes

Best Short Film
Room 8

Best British Film
Gravity

Best Rising Star
Will Poulter

Best Debut of a British Writer, Director or Producer
Kelly + Victor

[HorseTears]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 5:17pm

Re: The BAFTA for Best British Film: is Gravity a "British" film? I guess the financing must be mostly British or something? While I haven't seen Captain Phillips, how exciting for Barkhad Abdi. What an amazing start to his career. From limousine driver in Minnesota to working with Tom Hanks and wining BAFTAs!

Updated On: 2/16/14 at 05:17 PM

[Addison D.]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 5:21pm

Of the categories applicable to the broad-category films, they distributed "best" awards to 8 different films. Is that typical of the BAFTAs, or a symptom of a field crowded with good films?

[best12bars]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 5:27pm

On IMDb.com, the country of origin for Gravity is listed as US/UK.

Cuaron also mentioned something in his acceptance speech for Best Director about being essentially a British film director now, having lived there for 13 years and directed the majority of his films in the UK.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 5:58pm

Gravity's biggest producer is David Bowman, who is British and produced Harry Potter, that pretty mich employed all of BAFTA, which was noted in previous pages of the thread. C'mon people!

DBC getting shut out effected Actor and Supporting Actor. I also think the Philomena screenplay was an anomaly. British film and Coogan is a comedy institution there for Alan Partridge.

I do think though 12YAS loses its bite as a winner when it Gravity got the UK film and with exception to editing, won where it was supposed to. Meanwhile, 12YAS won in a category it has no shot in with McCaonughey's o issuing in actor but loses in winnable categories.

I think Gravity is very much helped by this.

[best12bars]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 6:15pm

I still feel like 12 Years will with the Best Picture Oscar, with Cuaron winning Best Director.

And while McConnaughey is the solid frontrunner for Best Actor, if I had to pick a possible spoiler it would be Ejiofor. I wouldn't hate it if he won, by any means. He is deserving.

Cate is a lock.

I think Best Supporting Actress is a tossup between Nyong'o and Lawrence. Either one could win, but I give the edge to Nyong'o ... since Lawrence won leading actress last year, and the Academy rarely honors an actor two years in a row. Still, it could happen.

Despite the BAFTA outcome, I still think Supporting Actor is a lock for Leto.

Editing will likely go to Gravity, not 12 Years, which is an unusual split, since the award for Best Editing almost always goes to the Best Picture winner. And I have no idea why they are married like that. No clue.

Score, not sure. I would be fine with 12 Years winning it, but as strummergirl has pointed out before, the Academy doesn't tend to like (mostly) electronic scores.

Art Direction and Costumes will AND should go to The Great Gatsby, so the BAFTAs got that right.

Most of the other smaller and technical awards I think will mirror the BAFTAs, with a few possible exceptions.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 6:26pm

The 12YAS score was not nominated. Gravity's to lose though I think Arcade Fire's Her score is its closest competition.

Despite the BAFTA win, one could take Lawrence's win as a make-up for losing to Riva last year. I think Nyong'o is still the favorite.

[best12bars]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 6:27pm

D'oh! Was the 12 Years score not eligible or was it just not nominated? I liked it a lot better than the Gravity score. That's a shame.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 6:31pm

Not nominated but one wonders if there was a tide against Hans Zimmer. No nominations in any score he did, even Man of Steel or Rush would feel fresher than that score for The Book Thief. The score nods are such a poor reflection of this past year. I like to think Thomas Newman was nominated for Side Effects instead.

[Brave Sir Robin2]

Posted: 2/16/14 at 10:55pm

Finally saw Captain Phillips and 12 Years A Slave. So far the other nominees I've seen are American Hustle, Gravity, and Her. I think Her was the best film I'e seen in a long time, but I think American Hustle would be right after. Gravity was interesting, but not my favorite. Phillips was overwrought and 12 Years A Slave, while incredibly well-done, was not exactly groundbreaking cinema.

[beautywickedlover]

Posted: 2/17/14 at 11:38am

Here is Entertainment Weekly's analysis of what might happen on Oscar night after the results of the BAFTAs.


Prize Fighter Analysis: BAFTA wins for '12 Years a Slave' and 'Gravity' further muddle a tight Oscar race

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 2/17/14 at 11:56am

So the report seems to indicate the preferential ballot system will favor GRAVITY. I still don't get why the movie with the most number one votes doesn't win, but whatever. I think it'd be a shame to see 12 YEARS lose to GRAVITY. In terms of my favorite picture of the year I'm deciding between AMERICAN HUSTLE and HER, those are the ones that have stayed with me the most this year, along with non-nominee INSIDE LLEWYN DAVIS. I do love the race is so close, I wish it was like this every year.
I thought Leonardo DiCaprio would pick up some steam with the BAFTA, but no dice. I think McConaughey, Leto, Nyong'o, and Blanchett are all set, and Alfonso Cuaron is winning by a landslide.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 2/17/14 at 12:51pm

Seen all the BP nominees except Nebraska and Philomena, which I'll be watching this week. So far, Gravity is still my personal pick. 12 Years a Slave is so brutal and unbalanced, I would be disappointed to see it win. I could understand if Nyong'o wins, but I'd give it to Lawrence, who stole American Hustle right out from under the rest of the cast.

[WiCkEDrOcKS]

Posted: 2/17/14 at 4:53pm

I think it'd be a shame to see 12 YEARS lose to GRAVITY.
Preach!

[best12bars]

Posted: 2/17/14 at 6:07pm

I was impressed with aspects of "Gravity," but even with the flaws I found in "12 Years a Slave," I don't think Gravity deserves to beat it for Best Picture.

And I completely, utterly, totally, and absolutely HATE the new, preferential ballot system. Politics disguised as mathematical odds should not ever pick a winner. The one with the most votes is the winner. Period.

All the Academy is doing is managing to lessen the impact of an award that has already lessened over the past two decades. It means less and less each year, and they are helping it to die out.

They should just throw a big PR party and televise where they praise each other for six hours and cry a lot. To hell with statues and voting. The votes mean nothing now.

Oh, wait. That's this year's Oscar ceremony.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 2/17/14 at 6:36pm

Best12, what was your overall reaction to 12 YEARS A SLAVE? I know you weren't sure about going to watch it, and I'm always curious to get your take on the films around the awards circuit. What would be your pick this year?
I don't dislike GRAVITY. I wouldn't say I liked it, but that has more to do with my own distaste for this type of story (single person gets lost, he/she tries to get home, you know from the beginning they will not get home for the next hour and a half, and then you get some sort of resolution). I thought Cuaron certainly did an impressive job, but I think casting George Clooney was a big failure (not financially obviously), and the story was pretty thin IMO. To me, the best picture winner should embody a film that works on all fronts.

[best12bars]

Posted: 2/17/14 at 6:46pm

Okay, I just re-read the current rules on the Academy website (which anybody can do), because this preferential treatment on the final ballot didn't make any sense to me.

The final ballot has only the nominees listed with a box next to each one. As an active or lifetime member, you are allowed to vote for just one choice in each category. The one with the most votes wins, just as it has always been. "In the event of a tie for first place in the final balloting, awards shall be given for both achievements."

This final ballot system hasn't changed at all.

The preferential ballot system couldn't possibly work for the final ballots, because voters don't list and rank their choices the way they do for the nominations. One choice, one vote. Just like always.

The preferential nomination system is now in place for ALL categories, not just Best Picture. This is how they prevent more than five nominees from being in any category other than Best Picture. And the system for nominating Best Picture is the one that is so crazy and yields no less than five nominees, but no more than ten, and no film shall get a nomination with less than 5 percent of the votes.

So, to be clear again, the final ballots are the same as they have been since the 1930s (when they changed the rule about ties to be exact, instead of within three votes).

The preferential voting system is for the nominations only, not the final ballots, and it's now in place for ALL categories, not just Best Picture.

Official Academy Awards Rules

Updated On: 2/17/14 at 06:46 PM