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#1

2017 TV Fall Season

What new shows do you like?

I am enjoying The Duece with a lovely performance by the female lead. I also think the mother in Young Sheldon is quite good.

Updated On: 9/27/17 at 01:48 PM

#2

2017 TV Fall Season

the female lead

Uhhh...Maggie Gyllenhaal?

#3

2017 TV Fall Season

I couldn't get into The Deuce. I'm a huge Maggie Gyllenhaal fan, but double the Franco is too much for me.


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#4

2017 TV Fall Season

I haven't watched The Deuce yet. It looks good, but yeah, that's a lot of Franco, which makes me hesitant.

#5

2017 TV Fall Season

The Good Doctor was a little better than I expected but under better hands it has the ability to exceptional. I liked The Brave.

#6

2017 TV Fall Season

I am LOVING The Orville. It's the new Star Trek that we've all been wanting.

I liked the first episodes of Young Sheldon and Me, Myself and I. We'll see if they stick, but I'm giving them another chance.


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#7

2017 TV Fall Season

I felt Young Sheldon was stronger than Me, Myself and I...

#8

2017 TV Fall Season

I liked Young Sheldon farmore than I expected and yes, the mum was great and is going to be key. I also thought the twin sister was very well writeen and performed.



Hated The Orville -- couldn't get through the first episode.



Refused to watch the actual Star Trex series as I won't pay more to watch a CBS show.



I missed the Good Doctor but will try to catch up.


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#9

2017 TV Fall Season

The first episode of the Orville was easily the worst of the series so far. Try episode three or four - they're much better, and I think more what the series will be.


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#10

2017 TV Fall Season

Just watched Young Sheldon. I really liked it more than I thought I would. Everyone was well cast, especially the Mother and Missy.

#11

2017 TV Fall Season

I liked Young Sheldon quite a bit too... in fact, the only thing about the show that I didn't like was that it's "Young Sheldon." I watch Big Bang Theory casually when it's on, and I remember the earlier years of the show fairly well, and that's the show's biggest problem.

Single-camera dramedies, especially ones trying for a relatively subtle tone like this one seems to, thrive in growth and change, even just small amounts of continuity. And anyone who remembers the beginning of the Big Bang Theory knows, Sheldon Cooper begins (and remains for a while) as a lonely, awkward, completely socially maladjusted outcast whose intelligence and repeatedly-implied neurodiversity do not prevent him from being a pompous ass.

I want to believe, watching a show like this, that there's hope for the kid and his family. To go in knowing that Sheldon only gets worse, more divorced from the people around him and from humanity at large, renders the whole show as a sad joke on an autistic savant. The world doesn't learn to embrace him, he doesn't learn how to interact on the world's level; he just embraces a limited palette of what he can be and do, and shuts off the rest. And that's a heavy burden for this show to carry from episode one. If this show were called, say, "Smartypants," and narrated by Parsons as a tongue-in-cheek allusion to his most famous role, I'd be all in.

Updated On: 10/1/17 at 05:50 PM

#12

2017 TV Fall Season

Your comments are very spot on. I believe you have to watch Young Sheldon without comparing it to the events we know in the Big Bang Theory. Which in, itself, would be very difficult. There are specifics that happened in the first episode that really don't make any sense...since we know Sheldon as an adult. I'm curious to see if something negative happened with the relationship between Sheldon and his Mother. In Young Sheldon, he seems to have a very close relationship with his Mother. However, in the Big Bang Theory, adult Sheldon always seems bothered and somewhat critical of his Mother.

#13

2017 TV Fall Season

double post

Updated On: 10/1/17 at 06:40 PM

#14

2017 TV Fall Season

darquegk said: "I want to believe, watching a show like this, that there's hope for the kid and his family. To go in knowing that Sheldon only gets worse, more divorced from the people around him and from humanity at large, renders the whole show as a sad joke on an autistic savant. The world doesn't learn to embrace him, he doesn't learn how to interact on the world's level; he just embraces a limited palette of what he can be and do, and shuts off the rest."

I haven't seen Young Sheldon, but it seems to me that Sheldon's life has turned out just fine - just on different terms than you describe here. What's wrong with that?

Updated On: 10/2/17 at 08:43 AM

#15

2017 TV Fall Season

I am absolutely in love with Kevin Probably Saves the World. It made my cry 4 times and the story is just so interesting. Can’t wait to see how the show progresses.


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#16

2017 TV Fall Season

Sheldon has gotten better over ten years of "Big Bang Theory," but it's hard to describe the guy that we met at the beginning of the series as "okay." That's the issue with Young Sheldon- unless they do something surprising, all the turning points of growth and discovery in Sheldon's life happen in Big Bang, not here.

For all the justifiable gripes that it's a lowest-common-denominator sitcom, Big Bang has been relatively admirable in the way it's handled having an autistic, asexual leading character (though the ongoing taboo about calling anyone "autistic" even non-judgmentally in a sitcom seems like it hasn't lifted since the days of Community).

#17

2017 TV Fall Season

County me in for "The Mayor." Yvette Nicole Brown is worth it.

#18

2017 TV Fall Season

The Good Doctor. The first episode was a little up & down. But episode 2 was riveting. Freddie Highmore is an amazing actor.


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#19

2017 TV Fall Season

I liked the Mayor too! Very cute with an appealing lead. I was looking forward to Ten Days in The Valley but I found if a little slow. It is still watchable however.

#20

2017 TV Fall Season

Just caught the first episode of Good Doctor. I thought it was very good. Though I winced at two "TV moments" that really rang false to me (I have three people in my family with varying degrees of autism and once managed a business that employed people with emotional disabilities like autism, savant syndrome, schizophrenia, etc) The first was mid show when he asked the female doctor (QFM) "why were you rude tome, then nicer to me, now you want to be my friend? Which one were you faking?" The second was at the end when he said to the lead surgeon, "You're very arrogant. Does that help you as a surgeon? Does it help you as a person? How do you reconcile the two?"

These both seemed completely out of character and like cheap TV moment, end-of-act buttons that completely took me out of the moment. Did not ring true at all. I'm hoping this doesn't become the show's formula, because without those two moments I really enjoyed the show.


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#21

2017 TV Fall Season

Anybody catch the CW reboot of Dynasty? It's no where near as good as the original, but it was better than I thought it would be.

#22

2017 TV Fall Season

Young Sheldon is more network drivel

I'm loving The Deuce, incredible performances, ambitious daring and exciting (and very accurate)

Highmore deserves better than The Young Doctor

Dynasty was pure trash, just like it should be.

Law and Order True Crime - The Menendez Brothers is great.


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#23

2017 TV Fall Season

I'm pleased to report that Mr Robot on USA Network is back for season 3 and has regained its footing. I really don't remember what was going on last season nor do I care. The season 3 opener features an epic monologue from Elliot. Angela's character has never been more interesting and Bobby Cannavale takes the series to another level as used car salesman Irving.

The only other new or returning series that does anything for me is The Brave on NBC starring Anne Heche and Mike Vogel. It's a network TV special forces procedural with all the appropriate boxes checked cast wise that somehow transcends the genre. Can't say that any new ground is being broken but it's pretty darn entertaining.


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#24

2017 TV Fall Season

I stuck with Mr. Robot through the first season, but it was too much like Fight Club without Fight Club and I just couldn't anymore, despite some pretty nifty cinematography and use of music.

I'm two episodes into The Deuce and kinda sorta enjoying it, enough to keep watching it for now. It moves along pretty slowly, like The Wire, but it's also got a lot going on and a lot of characters, which I like.

#25

2017 TV Fall Season

artscallion said: "Just caught the first episode of Good Doctor. I thought it was very good. Though I winced at two "TV moments" that really rang false to me (I have three people in my family with varying degrees of autism and once managed a business that employed people with emotional disabilities like autism, savant syndrome, schizophrenia, etc) The first was mid show when he asked the female doctor (QFM) "why were you rude tome, then nicer to me, now you want to be my friend? Which one were you faking?" The second was at the end when he said to the lead surgeon, "You're very arrogant. Does that help you as a surgeon? Does it help you as a person? How do you reconcile the two?"

These both seemed completely out of character and like cheap TV moment, end-of-act buttons that completely took me out of the moment. Did not ring true at all. I'm hoping this doesn't become the show's formula, because without those two moments I really enjoyed the show.
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I wanted to like this, and I will watch episode 2....but I fully agree with you. They are screaming with preachiness....and that would not come naturally from an Autistc person. I thought the writing was pretty horrific and felt that their research was fairly lacking.



Much of the dialogue was cringe-worthy, and I found the pacing deadly slow.....the graphics aren't necesaary since they mean next ot nothing to most of us.

Love the premise, but they need to work on their vision of what an young man with autism can be. This blank face is going to get old really quickly.

(And, FYI, I frequently work with autistic teens....currently have two in my academic classes and another that is a STAR in my drama club. And that's just THIS year.)


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