A message for Petralicious

This is truly a perfect example of policing of another person's right to free speech. Unhelpful, counterproductive, not to mention unconstitutional...and downright rude.

Updated On: 2/3/17 at 10:14 PM

BroadwayConcierge said: "This is truly a perfect example of policing of another person's right to free speech. Unhelpful, counterproductive, not to mention unconstitutional...and downright rude.



That's pretty rich coming from someone who welcomed me to the board last June by telling me I hadn't been here long enough and didn't even have the right to respond to a more senior poster's comment. Why don't you find a mirror and read back your comment to yourself, you arrogant and hypocritical tool.

What kind of education do most people around here have? Didn't you get basic instruction in the US Constitution in your required American History classes?

It's not unconstitutional to tell somebody to shut the hell up. In fact, it's protected by the first amendment. Some people seem to need a refresher. Or to complete junior high and move on.

The irony in this thread is when Fantod originally joined Broadwayworld he was given a really hard time from some long term members. Fantod was responding to many threads and gave his opinions, as he rightfully should. Some of these members did not like his opinions. He responded by stating he was a young high school student. These long term members did not believe him and gave him a really hard time. Fanrod reacted defensively and finally posted a picture of himself on here. He was very upset that they gave him a really hard time. My question to Fantod is....aren't you now doing the same thing that you , yourself did not like?

kdogg, yes, our constitutional right to free speech protects our speech from governmental censorship and retaliation—but also, in its specific and intentional phrasing, from societal sanction. Of course, Fantod can exercise his/her right to tell others to shut up, but the intention in doing so in this instance is to fundamentally suppress the political speech of somebody with whom he/she disagrees, and whose opinion is in the vast minority in this space. That's suppression of speech by distaste, and that's unconstitutional.

BroadwayConcierge said: "kdogg, yes, our constitutional right to free speech protects our speech from governmental censorship and retaliation—but also, in its specific and intentional phrasing, from societal sanction. Of course, Fantod can exercise his/her right to tell others to shut up, but the intention in doing so in this instance is to fundamentally suppress the political speech of somebody with whom he/she disagrees, and whose opinion is in the vast minority in this space. That's suppression of speech by distaste, and that's unconstitutional."

This is entirely wrong. The First Amendment is extremely specific; it begins with the words "Congress shall make no law," and says nothing about "societal sanction." Based on the 14th Amendment, those protections have been extended to state and local governments as well.

I'm pretty close to a free speech absolutist. I think "no law" means "no ****ing law." But outside of that, anything goes. You can say what you like, but you'll also have to face the natural consequences of what you say - others may criticize you, divorce you, fire you, or decline to use your business.

"Also, I must say, the theatrics of this thread's original post are quite rich, even for a Broadway message board. It's titled "A message for Petralicious," but even though Fantod could easily have clicked the "Send PM" button and given Petra this message one-on-one, he/she elected for the world to see it. By posting to the boards, this "message" has become of a "I dislike Petra, so let me see how many other people are sitting with me on my bandwagon and will join me in ostracizing and condemning him/her until he/she gets pressured to leave here." "

Good point, this could have been addressed with a PM.

yankeefan7 said: "First, I dislike any thread calling out a particular poster. If you don't like their posts, then just ignore them. I know there are other sites that have "ignore" feature where you don't see what that person posts. Don't know if there is anything like that on this board.



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There certainly is: the block feature you can access through your settings. It works quite well.

Well I'm British so constitution or not, Petra and Broadway Concierge are like bad panto villains who can't get work anymore so just spew nonsense to gain the attention they do desperately lack in the outside world.

Robert Reich has posted guidelines for dealing with Trump that can be applied to dealing with his hired political trolls like Petra and this Fake Concierge:

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1. Don't use his name;
2. Remember this is a regime and he's not acting alone;
3. Do not argue with those who support him--it doesn't work;
4. Focus on his policies, not his orange-ness and mental state;
5. Keep your message positive; they want the country to be angry and fearful because this is the soil from which their darkest policies will grow;
6. No more helpless/hopeless talk;
7. Support artists and the arts and/or independent media;
8. Be careful not to spread fake news. Check it;
9. Take care of yourselves; and
10. Resist!
If this speaks to you, copy to paste to your wall.

Updated On: 2/4/17 at 04:39 PM

Not trying to be nasty. Just saying that it really isn't worth it.

And that poster above also says you are harassing them and are terrifying if you go the pm route. You can't win with either of these 2 trolls. Blocking them seems the best route for all of us rational people. They constantly claim freedom of speech yet support a man out to take those rights away. You can't win. They're out to make everyone feel miserable because they aren't happy with who they are. I really do miss what this off topic forum used to be. I'm just disgusting that this once diverse place is being taken over by 2 idiots who trumpet someone set to make America as white as possible.