I didn't read through the whole thread yet but if someone already posted this then my bad but Eddie Murphy sums up American Horror Story...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96s1M8IyrUQ
The dude that plays the guy Jessica Lange is boinking that is now boinking Hayden is on Young and the Restless. I knew he looked familiar.
So how can crazy dead girlfriend go out to the bar with Dylan? She was killed on the property so shouldn't she be stuck there, too?
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Ah that makes sense. I was cleaning up my dogs vomit from the carpet during that scene so I guess I missed it.
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This is the first episode in a while that didn't make me want to claw my eyes out. I was actually sorry the episode was over, because I was really enjoying it. I thought plot stuff moved along, I thought the writing was snappy, etc. Kate Mara and Jessica Lange were the total MVPs of this episode.
I await next week, when it will inevitably infuriate me again.
Interesing episode...I thought this episode flew by and was sad that it was over....next week alot of questions will be answered and is directed by Michael Lehmann, who directed Heathers
Lesson from this episode I learned If you have sex with the undead who is wearing a rubber suit really make sure you have protection or else you can concieve the anti christ
He had rubber everywhere except where it counted.
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I just checked to see who wrote this episode and my suspicions were correct - it was Jennifer "Eunice Tate" Salt. She also wrote the other episode that didn't make me want to throw something against the wall. She should be writing all of them!
Also, I found it interesting the Black Dahlia was killed in that house. Maybe Hoffa was, as well.
How was Dahlia up and walking when all the other ghosts wear their injuries?
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Wasn't she dead before she got hacked up? I think she died in the chair.
Wait, the bar scene was a flashback? That makes sense, but I really didn't see it presented as that way... Hrmm. Tate has been seen off the property too (and not just on Halloween), there was an early scene where Ben said he couldn't see Tate at the house so they met in what looked like a picnic bench in a schoolyard).
I have to say I'm SICK of Haydn. She's reminding me of a common problem in Murphy/Falchuk shows--an annoying character that they seem to love and use more and more but nobody I know watching likes--Glee and Nip/Tuck have suffered the same problem (usually, for whatever reason, they tend to be bitchy, posessive women).
We were saying last night that it's sort of gilding the lily to cast someone who looks like a drooling psychopath the first time you lay eyes on her.
OK, I see how it was a flashback now--it cut to Ben thinking. Still, it confused me completely.
Another Muprhy-ism, but I don't get if we are meant to somehow relate or sympathize with Ben at all. I get the impression they think we should--but after how he verbally attacked Vic in the loonie bin, I don't know how anyone can. EVen if he thought she had cheated--after he had--it was completely uncalled for and seemed out of character even for the world's all time worst shrink.
Still enjoying the show, but I admit the last two episodes have sorta made me think it's already peaked. I hope for future seasons Murphy does stick to his original plan on focusing on almost entirely new characters or I can see this falling into the second season trap his shows always do--at least character wise. The preview was kinda misleading too--I remember someone on here said they were looking forard to this episode as the trailer made it look like it was going to be stylistically different from the others, the way Nip/Tuck sometimes did with special episodes--but the preview merely showed basically the entire Pop/Box scene from the end.
(Oh and as I'm sure others have pointed out, Billie Jean or whatever her name is, needs to learn her relgion. The immaculate conception wasn't Mary giving birth to Christ--it was actually about Mary's own birth).
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I'm almost 100% sure the only time Tate was seen out of the house was on Halloween, which (unless I'm wrong) was the episode where Ben said he'd meet him elsewhere. The show established that the ghosts could leave the property on Halloween.
I've already deleted last night's episode, so I'm going for memory, but I thought all the dialogue in the scene with Ben and Hayden in the bar was about her trying to get with him for the first time. I guess it was unclear because Eric is the second person to say he didn't realize it was a flashback, but I thought it was completely evident that that scene took place before their affair started.
ETA - I didn't see Eric's most recent post when I had typed this.
I agree about the Immaculate Conception thing, but I swear to God, I know fire and brimstone Christians who don't understand that the Immaculate Conception means that Mary was conceived without the stain of original sin and not that Jesus was conceived without anyone having sex.
Updated On: 12/1/11 at 06:30 PM
That's part of my problem with Haydn--though as a ghost she seems to show some sympathy (to the ghosts she feel deserve it anyway--to a small extent), she's just been shown as pretty much raving insane from the get go (even now in this flashback) that there's nowhere for her character to go, at least for me.
Yeah I feel dumb that I didn't get that that was a flashback--I just rewtached the scene and I guess it was pretty clear, but usually Murphy isn't so subtle in his shows :P Maybe I just needed to pay more attention.
You're right--the Tate/Ben outside scene did take place in part one of the Halloween episode.
Phyllis, I swear you're magic--I can never find the option to edit my posts...
But yes, I'd wager that most people think Immaculate Conception is about Christ. My question is was this Murphy/Falchuk and crew's error, or simply the character's? I suppose it doesn't really matter...
It took me a few seconds to realize the bar scene was a flashback.
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Eric, there's not an "edit message" hyperlink next to the "reply to message" in your posts? I know other people have had that problem, too, though, so I'm not sure why you can't edit. But yes, I am indeed magic. :)
I assume the error about the Immaculate Conception came from the writing. I suppose it could be a character thing, but if I were betting on it I'd say it was the writing, not the character.
See, I knew you were! (Nope, no edit thing... I've had endless probs with BWW the past while, and have had no reply when I've emailed admins--I can only log on with facebook which seems to have me in a new account with my old name, so can't access my old email, there's no display photo, and I can't send PMs either though I can reply to ones sent to me... Anyway...)
Yeah, I suspect it's the writing too. While I love to blame Murphy for anything I don't like or I find wrong (Flachuk somehow escapes any criticism on the shows he co-runs and created, partly I assume because he hates interviews and Murphy loves to shoot off his gob), I do suspect it's the writing. Murphy tends to have a VERY broad knowledge of both pop and traditional culture, but rarely a very deep one, so if he did do the final edit of Salt's script as show runners usually do, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought it was correct.
Speaking of Ryan and his gob, in case anyone missed it, his latest weekly "post mortem" on the episode for Ent Weekly has a few interesting points http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/30/american-horror-story-ryan-murphy-spooky-little-girl/
Holy Crap!!! The beginning was insane and now we know how Larry got burned...and I had a feeling about Violet
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