Sooo excited! The Times gave it an odd review today, very mediocre, at least for the first two episodes. They did say Lange is just as delicious as a nun as she was the grandma of satan last year.
I can't wait. I purposely didn't read the Times review; I'll catch up tomorrow.
I saw a clip of Lange just walking down a hallway in her nun's drag and my heart skipped a beat.
Will someone, for the love of all that is holy, tell me what score they've pilfered for this season??? It's KILLING me right now!!!
Featured Actor Joined: 6/22/05
A lot of this episode's themes are from the 1976 "Carrie" soundtrack.
Updated On: 10/17/12 at 10:55 PM
I'm already thinking I'm going to have to watch this again.
To me the editing and the energy felt very different to me. It almost feels like it’s supposed to keep you off-balance, like you don’t know what you’re seeing. Is that what you were going for?
"When Brad and I did season 1, it was definitely influenced by masters like [Stanley] Kubrick. This year the thing that I was really obsessed with is I was really influenced by DePalma, who I think is a brilliant filmmaker, who I really feel like never gets his just desserts. It’s time for a Brian DePalma resurgence. So I was very into the filming style of DePalma’s works, specifically Dressed to Kill and Carrie. There’s a lot of slow motion, there’s a lot of languid filmmaking. In the first episode, as a tribute to Brian, we actually used two big pieces from Carrie’s score. So the same can be said of DePalma’s work which is very fever dream. Look at that last scene of Carrie—was it real? Was it a dream? So yes it was very influenced by his work particularly. Also it was very influenced by [Dario] Argento. The other great thing about it is Brad Buecker, who edited all the shows last year, who’s my right hand man, is also a brilliant director. The first two were edited and directed by Brad. It’s very interesting when an editor directs. It’s much more I think a psychological thriller as well."
EW's post-episode interview with Murphy
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
It didn't make me ragey like Ryan Murphy stuff usually does, but overall I thought it was just kind of... wan, I guess.
I did notice some 70s DePalma influence (which I'm a sucker for), though honestly I didn't notice all that much Kubrick influence last year (unless he means stealing the idea of dead twin kids).
I thought it was OK, with a couple of good moments... As I've said in The New Normal thread, I have a lot less issue with Murphy when he does American Horror Story, despite some huge issues with characterization, I guess because I can accept jumps in logic more when it's a nutty horror show.
(And kinda random, as this afternoon I was obnoxiously going on to a friend how much I loved DePalma's Carrie, but, despite some serious plot problems, unabashedly loved Dressed to Kill even more. Gah, I dislike when Murphy and I share an opinion).
Interestingly, neither Ryan Murphy or Brad Falchuk wrote tonight's premier or the next three episodes--usually one of the creators, at least, scripts the premier of each season. Tim Minear, who wrote one of the better episodes last year (Halloween part 2), and of course was showrunner for seasons 2 and 3 of Angel as well as co-showrunner for Firefly and Dollhouse, wrote the pilot. I guess Ryan and Brad are busy with Glee, New Normal, etc...
I missed the first season but I'm assuming this show is supposed to be high camp right? I thought parts were pretty hilarious but I was never scared. Lange was ok but her accent seemed to come and go. I liked Cromwell. Thought the space alien sub plot was stupid.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/8/12
Jessica Lange was brilliant. She blew the other actors out of the water (or the asylum). Along with Meryl Streep and Glenn Close she is one of the best actresses of her generation.
I need to re-watch it. I dozed off because I was watching it too late at night.
I thought it did what all first episodes of shows should do, set up the whole season. I can watch Jessica Lange and James Cromwell go toe to toe every day of the week. I can't wait to see Ian McShane on it as well. I could see the DePalma influence. I am not sure about the alien thing but do we know it is real or in his head? Not saying he killed his wife. I can see this season will be more about the creepy psychological horror,then the paranormal horror. Still interested in seeing where it is going to go
I probably need to rewatch it, but my first reaction was negative.
***SPOILERS***
It's like it's a COMPLETELY different show, with different aims. There is no one to really like or root for the way you wanted the family to be okay in the first series. It's not about the supernatural, at least not yet, so I guess we're going with alien abductions, which is not what I signed up for.
But most important, the whole nightmare asylum thing has just been done to effing death in the past 10 years. And they did nothing new with it. Pyschotic doctors (and nuns) performing unspeakable acts on the sane and insane alike. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
The best part of the episode was learning that apparently nuns don't wear underwear under their robes.
I did enjoy watching Jessica Lange audition for a revival of "Doubt."
I liked it. The stylized look and a couple of the accents may take time to get completely used to, but I felt that it set up some things to wonder about for future episodes. (What's in the woods? Who grabbed the journalist with that big arm? Is the Bloody Face at the end the same Bloody Face in the 60's? What was that spider chip thing in Kit's neck?) I'm surprised to see Chloe as just a guest star, as I had assumed she would be pretty featured.
Next week, we'll see Quinto, and I think this is when the exorcism plot happens.
All good to know; I've deliberately tried to not read much about this. I guess I'm just not a sci-fi fan, so the alien stuff turned me off. But that's just me. I'll definitely keep watching.
But if Andrew Rannells shows up, I'm outta there.
I only watched the first 15 minutes and was so tired, decided to watch tonite from the beginning. It definitely has a different feel this year, but am digging the ideas and am excited for the ride. Paulsen walking up to the asylum to the Carrie theme was fun. I think Lange is delicious in this new role.
So, was Adam Levine only in that first scene? I thought he did a good job.
"I'm surprised to see Chloe as just a guest star, as I had assumed she would be pretty featured."
Wynbish, I'm pretty sure Heather Locklear went through the entire run of Melrose Place billed as guest star, yet she could easily be considered a lead in the series. I think these things (at least with TV) have more to do with billing negotiations and placement in the credits than they do with reality.
Adam's in a little more, and will be in some future episodes. They won't flash forward every episode, though.
Updated On: 10/18/12 at 10:11 AM
If I had better internet skills I would remix the hell out of Jessica Lange saying 'STUUUU-PEDDDD!!!!!' to Lily Rabe.
I will put money that the things in the woods are Island of Dr. Moreau concoctions done by Cromwell's character, who was truly just frightening.
I will also put money on Joseph Fiennes will somehow end up being way more evil than Jessica Lange.
Was the Evan Peters character and his wife just a good-looking, younger version of Betty and Barney Hill story? Aside from it being a social taboo and the significance that they had no legal marriage license, I do not see a reason aside from being a nod to that story that it was an interracial couple.
Let me also say Clea DuVall looks so different in that wig.
No one to to root for?
Are you kidding? The earnest kid whose wife was murdered and the lesbian couple who were forced to commit one of their own?
I think theres plent to root for.
I think this genre serves Ryan better-one where you can suspend disbelief and forgive an inconsistency.
There's nothing like this on TV and I think it is delicious fun. I'm so glad it is back.
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