AMERICANS ARE TYRANTS

[ALittleNorthofKansas]

Posted: 2/1/25 at 9:49pm

To every citizen of the USA you are complicit in this.  As a Canadian we are now surrounded by a Communist tyrant to the North and attach whatever vulgar name to the Tyrant in the White House.  All Americans are Dumb as F!@# and I hope and pray that the economic ruin that your President brings to your now former ally hurts each and everyone of you tenfold.  I loathe and despise everyone of you with all my being.  Your country is joke.  Your country is dead.  I bet the moderators will not have the courage to let this post stand for long but this is all your countries fault.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/2/25 at 10:51am

You are supposedly a "Broadway Legend", and you don't know that 99.5% of BWW posters hate Trump more than you could even imagine - lol. Maybe you have never heard or understood free speech but saying negative things about the current POTUS or this country is not against the rules of this chat board. Any vulgar name you could call Trump has probably been done quite a few times already. Do me a favor, read some of the "Off -Topic" thread posts and let me know if your post is worse than others the moderators have let stay. This country is not a joke and is not dead. Even with its faults, millions of people flock to come here. I have been to Canada several times in my life (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Victoria) and enjoyed it. Absolutely loved Buchart Gardens in Victoria.  Have a nice day

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 2/3/25 at 12:04pm

I get it. If I were in your shoes, watching the U.S. implode from the outside, I’d be furious too. Look at today the abrupt and illegal dismantling of USAID—by an unelected billionaire, no less—sends a clear message: the U.S. is no longer the stable, reliable partner it once was. Instead of leading with diplomacy and cooperation, we’re letting a tech mogul override Congress and shut down a vital agency with no accountability.
 

You have every right to be angry. If the U.S. is making reckless decisions that will harm our closest allies, that’s not just an American problem—it’s a global one. And I won’t argue with you when you say our country looks like a joke right now. But I will say this: not all of us are okay with what’s happening.

 

Many Americans feel just as powerless as you do, watching as institutions are gutted overnight, government agencies are shut down without oversight, and our role in the world crumbles. The fact that USAID employees were locked out of their emails and headquarters with no legal process shows how fragile things have become. This isn’t democracy—it’s rule by the ultra-wealthy, and it’s terrifying.

 

If this is how they dismantle an international aid agency, what’s next? I know it’s hard to have faith in the U.S. right now. Trust me, a lot of us feel the same. But there are still people here fighting to turn things around. Whether that will be enough—I don’t know.

What I do know is that the world is shifting, and if the U.S. continues to alienate its allies, it might not like what comes next. If Canada and others decide they’re better off without us, I can’t blame them. But for those of us still here, still pushing back—we hope it’s not too late to fix what’s broken.

[uncageg]

Posted: 2/5/25 at 6:54pm

To the OP, 

Before you make a stupid blanket statement like that, do your research. Also, anyone knows that the entire US did not vote for him which is the same in any country with elections. Instead of a childish post, why not actually try to have some constructive conversation about it. And are people in Canada out today protesting Trump? We are in all 50 states. 

[binau]

Posted: 2/6/25 at 4:13am

I think that Trump is simply an opportunistic symptom taking advantage of deep problems caused by the Democratic Party and a culture that has gone out of control, and if you can't solve it I predict you can look forward to Republicans being in the White House for much longer than the next 4 years (as I predicted Trump would win because I am following closely what is happening on both sides, whereas I think some people aren't paying enough attention to the competition and arrogantly assume in their own echo-chambers that everything is fine). 

The problem is that Biden was a selfish leader that did not realise he had to step down for the good of the American people - the NYTimes exposition on his failing health, mental and emotional abilities during the presidency is truly shocking, Kamala Harris was incompetent (the full 60 minute interview just realised is painful to say the least), the problem is that the culture tried so hard to suppress free speech not thinking through the implications, to shame and cancel people that disagreed with them, to not know how to have some common sense compromises around Trans issues that has been counterproductive to the cause and now put them in the worst position in terms of civil rights and attitudes I have ever seen (very, very shameful), to actually spread misinformation about their opponents that I was shocked myself to realise we had been duped. To reduce complex issues to group identity and oppressor/oppressed narratives. 

It seems that society swings in pendulums, and we've gone from so far left to so far right we need to be in the centre. 

To 'hate trump' is not sufficient anymore, in a democracy and competitive environment you actually need to be better. You may hate what they stand for, and there are certainly ethical issues with some of these associations (especially Elon Musk because it does feel like there is the potential for corruption with this kind of power and wealth), but not only has Trump taken advantage of the Democratic party's and cultural failings, he is also surrounded with people that are highly intelligent (e.g. JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk) and it would be very, very naive to simply dismiss this threat on ideological grounds. 

The best outcome you can hope for is that this presidency implodes the same way that Trump did during his terrible handling of the C19 pandemic, which will make it easy for the Democrats to succeed. Otherwise, there is a lot of work to be done. 

People here didn't want to listen to me when I suggested that Hillary Clinton might lose to Trump.

People here didn't want to listen to me when I suggested that Kamala might lose to Trump.

This is part of the problem with the ideological culture - even good faith criticism you don't listen, you don't take onboard feedback, you try to silence and smear the criticism and call them names.

Well time is up now, it doesn't work. I don't think everyone can wash their hands suggesting they have nothing to do with this outcome. 

 

Updated On: 2/6/25 at 04:13 AM

[ACL2006]

Posted: 2/6/25 at 8:28am

if he doesn't make things cheaper, which was a top topic for his campaign, it'll be a huge disappointment for his MAGA base. suppose he starts WW3 due to the Gaza situation plus not settling the Russia-Ukraine war. In that case, that'll be strike 2 on him. and he's sending immigrants to a detention camp in Guantanamo Bay while also sending some to a prison camp in El Salvador. His MAGA base doesn't care about that, but the independent voters might think otherwise. 

[kdogg36]

Posted: 2/6/25 at 12:15pm

I'll try to be as measured as I can be here, binau, but I think you're wrong about two very basic things.

First, Trump is the fault of the truly despicable individuals who cast a vote for him. The way you argue it, it almost seems like those of us who are pro-trans and anti-Trump are the bad people, while the Trump-voting bigots are reacting reasonably to our horribleness. Is this a fair summary of your argument?

Second, and this is something I have to remind myself of a lot, the outcome of this election really doesn't say anything fundamental about anything. Probably 45 percent of the population always votes for Democrats and 45 percent always votes for Republicans; elections are decided by a small percentage of swing voters, many of whom are low-information voters who only turn out to when they're mad about something. Trump got less than half the popular vote and the Republican victory in general was extremely modest - much less sweeping, for example, than Obama and Democrats in 2008. It really seems a stretch to attribute much cultural import to such a feeble victory.

Updated On: 2/6/25 at 12:15 PM

[binau]

Posted: 2/6/25 at 2:18pm

I'm not suggesting people that are pro-trans or anti-Trump are bad people at all, in fact to the contrary I would suggest that these people are probably good people (if we mean good in a morality sense, and seem to have sincere intentions even though I don’t think the practical realities of the methods used to realise those intentions are always inherently good or moral ideas). What I am suggesting is that I think the Democrats and their supporters have made several strategic errors that have led to this outcome that could have been avoided with more common sense and concessions that I think are worth making if it means you can be closer to the goals you want to achieve (as well as better Democratic leadership of course). And if people don't learn from these mistakes I don't see it changing any time soon unless the Trump presidency explodes, which is highly possible. This is a crazy roller coaster! 

I take your point that at the end of the day it's only a small amount of people that actually will change their voting behaviour so it's true that it's hard to make massive generalisations over what the whole population actually think if really we mean only what a tiny fraction of the population think who make the difference in election outcome - but at the end of the day does it matter because if this is how elections are determined it means that what this tiny voting base think is the most important thing if we are trying to understand and influence an election outcome, does it not?

In any case, correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is Trump barely got any more votes this time but Kamala Harris got a lot less (millions and millions less) votes than Joe Biden did in 2020. I think that in itself says something. What I imagine in my mind (correct if wrong) is that many democrat voters were unhappy at worst or not thrilled at best with the choices presented to them and decided to stay home instead - it's probably very difficult for someone to bring themselves to vote for Trump but that doesn't seemingly mean they are going to vote for Kamala Harris either. Unfortunately, in a practical sense not voting for Kamala was in a practical sense indirectly voting for Trump.

The only other plausible explanation I have is that people might have thought Kamala was a sure winner and didn't need to vote, but after learning from 2016/Hillary and given the polls were so much closer between Harris/Trump this time compared with Hillary/Trump in 2016 I find it hard to believe people would have been so confident that Kamala would win and hence I think more likely situation is non-voting behaviour reflects something in itself - not voting is definitely a deliberate choice I think. 


 

Updated On: 2/6/25 at 02:18 PM

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 2/10/25 at 8:38pm

What we observed in the last election cycle—based on direct conversations with voters while canvassing—is that many Americans are largely unaware of how government functions in their daily lives. A significant factor contributing to this is the decline of civics education. As funding continues to be reduced, the consequences will be most deeply felt in areas where voters have supported policies that facilitate these cuts.

One of the biggest takeaways from this election is that many Americans did not see a meaningful difference between the two parties. That perception—whether due to disengagement, dissatisfaction, or a lack of clear messaging—likely influenced non-voting behavior. While some may have assumed Kamala Harris had a guaranteed win and didn't feel the need to vote, it's also possible that for many, not voting was an intentional choice rather than a passive oversight.

As the next few years unfold, those distinctions between the parties will become more apparent, and the impact of non-participation will be felt in ways that may shift public perception. Without a foundational understanding of government and policy, political disengagement will only grow, making these cycles of disillusionment and reaction even more pronounced.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 3/3/25 at 6:01pm

ALittleNorthofKansas said: "To every citizen of the USA you are complicit in this. As a Canadian we are now surrounded by a Communist tyrant to the North and attach whatever vulgar name to the Tyrant in the White House. All Americans are Dumb as F!@# and I hope and pray that the economic ruin that your President brings to your now former ally hurts each and everyone of you tenfold. I loathe and despise everyone of you with all my being. Your country is joke. Your country is dead. I bet the moderators will not have the courage to let this post stand for long but this is all your countries fault."

What a vile, toxic post. To every citizen of the US? Seriously? Why don’t you direct your venom at the low intelligence, low information, lowlife bigots and morons who voted his fat orange ass back into office. That does not include me, and nor does it include virtually half the country. I assure you that many loathe that pathetic subhuman pile of garbage with a passion. The day he drops dead, there are going to be dance parties in the streets. 

[South Florida]

Posted: 3/3/25 at 7:53pm

Well written Lav.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 3/4/25 at 5:23pm

If it were a straightforward thing for Americans to leave the country - as easy as it is, for example, to leave a club, political party, or religion - then the OP would have a point, because then being American would be a legitimate basis for individual judgment. In reality, it is (unfortunately) practically impossible for most of us to leave and become permanent residents of another country. Being American is out of our control.