Any Doctor Who Fans? **UK AIR-DATE SPOILERS ABOUND**- Page 43

[kec]

Posted: 5/3/10 at 3:29pm

I've read elsewhere that people think it unlikely Eccleston will take part in any multi-Doctor story. I'd be happy if it was just 10 and 11.

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 5/3/10 at 6:22pm

10 and 11 together would be loads of fun. And Amy. I wonder what Amy would have to say about that. And perhaps throw Captain Jack in there as well, just for kicks.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/3/10 at 7:43pm

Oh Lord. Captain Jack would have a Tardis orgy up in there. He is the pimp ho of the universe. lol

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 5/7/10 at 6:23pm

On a sort of Doctor Who note, I just got the Hamlet DVD and a copy of 'The Writer's Tale: The Final Chapter'. So far it's a fascinating look into how RTD came up with concepts from Doctor Who. Even more interesting now that he's gone, to sort of be taken back into that era of Doctor Who.

[Plum]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 12:49am

People base their assumptions about Eccleston and Who on the false premise that he quit the show to avoid typecasting, which was an idea that was blatantly invented by the BBC's publicity arm when they panicked because the news of his departure leaked early.

I have no idea whether or not he'd do a Who reunion special, myself, but I suspect that if it was for Children in Need or something similar he could be persuaded.

Anyway, I'm more interested in getting into Moffat Who than hauling out Tennant and Piper yet again.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 1:04am

Isn't the real story that Eccleston only signed on for one season to begin with. I think they had Tennant hired before they even began shooting the first episode.

[Plum]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 3:09am

Yep, Eccleston was always signed for one season, and his preexisting working relationship with RTD was probably half the reason he agreed to do it in the first place. I think he's just happier doing indie things that don't make him so famous. :P

Back when the series revival was announced the people being speculated about as possible casting were, like, children's show hosts and TV chefs and clowns and stuff. Bill Nighy's name got in there towards the end, I think, but when Eccleston was signed it was kind of a shock - and a credibility boost - that they'd gotten pretty much the epitome of a Serious Actor to do the show.

So when the news about the regeneration leaked maybe people were like OH WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE TOO GOOD FOR US?, and that BS press release the BBC released in response was no help.

ANYWAY. I'm a little bit dubious about "Vampires of Venice" just because I have no particular fondness for vampires, even though clearly these aren't going to be "real" vampires but vampire aliens of some kind, because such is the way of Who.

It was written by Toby Whithouse, who also wrote "School Reunion" and the Torchwood episode "Greeks Bearing Gifts", both of which were decent episodes in seasons I loathed, so...here's hoping he can work wonders with Eleven and Amy.

[kec]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 8:35am

I'm in the middle the The Writer's Tale now and am really enjoying it. It's very interesting to read all the background stuff for series four.

Saw a preview clip on Blogtor Who for Vampires in Venice; The Doctor mentions Casanova and a bet. Thought that was funny considering who played Casanova in the last few years...

[Weez]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 1:56pm

Heehee, I really liked 'Vampires in Venice'. Clearly what this season has needed is more Rory! :3

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 6:30pm

I really liked this episode and I really love Rory. There was a MAJOR disappointment though:

**SPOILER**

they weren't really vampires. I was hoping they were.

**END OF SPOILER**


Next week's looks to be amazing as well. REEEEALLLYYY enjoying this series

Updated On: 5/8/10 at 06:30 PM

[Plum]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 7:07pm

Spidey, there will never be vampires on Doctor Who unless they visit another universe. It's like the not-really-witches in "The Shakespeare Code" - there's no magic in the Who universe, only aliens and sufficiently advanced technology. :)

As far as I know, the only time actual magic has been shown on Doctor Who was in the Seventh Doctor serial "Battlefield", which featured characters from a parallel universe that had magic. /nerdery

As for "Vampires of Venice", it was downright enjoyable as the requisite ridiculous historical story of the season. (The BBC loves to bust out its period costumes and sets. Heh.) There was an actual plot! Which had holes but made a modicum of sense! Woah!

And while I predicted this would happen, I was still relieved as hell to realize that they weren't going the Mickey route with Rory, instead explicitly rejecting the road that helped turn Ten into a douche and bringing the boyfriend along for the ride wholeheartedly.

Also, Helen McRory rocks mightily. But anyone who watched Life would know that. (She's also Narcissa Malfoy in the Harry Potter movies and played Tennant!Casanova's mother.)

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 7:15pm

Maybe not full fledged Vampires, but aliens that have vampire-like qualities. I was just a wee bit disappointed in the fish people. BUT I still really enjoyed this episode a lot. And this season is SUPER dark compared to anything before it. I mean, when Isabella gets eaten - that's dark stuff.

Also, I LOVE the one liners in this episode:

"I'm a Time Lord. You're a big fish. Think of the children." HAHA

[Plum]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 7:19pm

I loved that line, too! Smith and McRory's scene together was just sensational all around.

And Spidey, go and rewatch "Smith and Jones" if you like bloodsuckers so much. :P

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/8/10 at 7:26pm

not quite the same lol

[slmlbl]

Posted: 5/9/10 at 1:59am

Just saw this thread for the first time and I am in heavan.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/9/10 at 2:10am

WELCOME!! :)

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 5/9/10 at 10:56am

I second that. Welcome!

I liked 'Vampires In Venice', although the fish-people plot was a bit annoying once they were revealed. I might have a thing against fish people, though, because I didn't like the ones in 'The Doctor's Daughter' either.

And for me, the best part of this episode was Rory and his interactions with the Doctor and Amy. I am so glad he was brought back. He's definitely better than Mickey. (Mickey always came off to me as annoying-I kind of sympathized with the Doctor being mean to him. Rory was rather brave.) The whole broomstick/sword fight was excellent.

I also like the bit about the silence and the cracks. Something big (and possibly eerily quiet) is going to happen...

And Venice itself is a fantastically wonderful setting. It's such an interesting city, on water!

Anyway, next week's episode looks like it could be really good, if it's pulled off well. The whole dream vs reality thing, though...hasn't Moffat done that?

[slmlbl]

Posted: 5/9/10 at 8:24pm

Thanks for the welcome. Ive been reading throught he thread the past day or so and am way excited it exsists.

Sitting dow tonight and watching 3 & 4. Cannot wait!!!

[Chrysanthemum62001]

Posted: 5/9/10 at 10:57pm

This is a bit of a tangent from the topics but there's something about Matt Smith's Doctor that's a bit mean. Or just harsh I guess. Definately different.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/9/10 at 11:25pm

He is VERY reminiscent of Pertwee and Tom Baker. They would tell someone to shut up in a hot second. Matt Smith's Doctor isn't mean, just short tempered when he is trying to think and people distract him.

[Plum]

Posted: 5/10/10 at 12:21am

I find him far less mean than Ten. Eleven will tell people to shut up, but he isn't actually contemptuous of redshirts or nearly as judgmental of anyone not named Rose as Ten was. Basically, he's rude and short-tempered but not cruel or malicious. And he doesn't have a god complex.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/10/10 at 12:42am

the god complex slips out every now and then..."One thing you don't want to put in a trap - me!"..."Who da man?!?" etc. He still thinks he is the sh!t but he is not really done anything yet to fully get that status. Granted, it's only 5 episodes in :)

Updated On: 5/10/10 at 12:42 AM

[Plum]

Posted: 5/10/10 at 12:46am

Nah, that's just garden-variety arrogance. :)

[GuitarGirl]

Posted: 5/10/10 at 6:52am

A lot of Ten's 'god complex' was projected on him by what other characters would say. He really was just arrogant. The only real god-complex moments that originated with Ten himself was that strange sequence with the angels in 'Voyage of the Damned' and the end of 'The Waters of Mars', the latter of which showed how bad things would be if the Doctor actually accepted his role as one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

That said, I actually find Eccleston to be one the harshest Doctor of the new series. (Not arrogant, just harsh). Matt Smith would be the least harsh/mean to me because he just looks too...nice.

Smith may not have a god-complex, but his Doctor does have the very odd advantage of everyone knowing who he is and that he's capable of anything, whereas Doctors Nine and Ten had to always introduce themselves/prove themselves to people. Matt Smith's Doctor is trusted by most of the people he meets except, interestingly, Amy and Rory.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 5/16/10 at 12:12am

Just finished watching "Amy's Choice." Yeah, not one of my favorites. It had some great ideas but I don't know. I just didn't feel this one.