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Clinton Mocks Obama - "The Sky Will Open, The Light Will Come Down"
#75ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 1:28pm
what about Buddy Clinton? can he run too? he was only in the white house from 97 - 2000
Buddy was hit by a car and died shortly after Clinton left office. They had already gotten rid of Socks (after 10 years) because he didn't get along with the puppy.
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Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
#76ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 1:34pmtypical obamanacs, making fun of the dead! some people have no shame.
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...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#77ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 2:19pm
I can see Hillary's frustration, she can't attack the guy political or otherwise. At the debates, he is above the dirty politics or even certain questions. "Silly Season" I believe he said. When not on National TV he's going after her left and right and through the mail. I really hope she can nail him at the debate tomorrow, on his two-sided campaign. You can't talk about hope on one front then politics as usual on the other.
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9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
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Updated On: 2/25/08 at 02:19 PM
9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
9/28 - Death Of A Salesman, Wright State
#78ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 2:46pm
Ohio Boy,
I encourage you to look beyond personalities (and campaign postering) and examine the issues. Hillary's u-turn on NAFTA has been well chronicled. Check out the link below.
Hillary's Shifting Position on NAFTA
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
Updated On: 2/25/08 at 02:46 PM
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#79ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 3:03pm
Here's an interesting article from the Real Clear Politics on Obama's message of "Change" wondering how it's defined and how it will be implemented.
Yes, Obama is a wonderful speaker, and his calls for change obviously resonate with many Americans. With seven out of 10 Americans agreeing that the country is headed off on the wrong track, it isn't surprising that every candidate has talked change. No one has promised a third Bush term.
The question, of course, is what kind of change? Does Obama want to find common ground between Democrats and Republicans? Will he push issues and alternatives only with a national consensus? Or is "change" simply a value-neutral word for liberalism?
...Part of the problem with Obama's message -- and part of the reason it has so far been successful in his White House bid -- is that different people read different things into his message of hope and change.
During an interview on a Washington, D.C., radio station the morning of the Potomac primary, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) talked about why he is drawn to Obama's message of change. One didn't need to read very hard between the lines to see that Kennedy thinks "change" means a dramatically more liberal agenda.
There is, of course, nothing surprising or wrong with this. You would expect Kennedy to support a candidate with whom he agrees.
But other voters, including some Republicans and many independents, seem to be attracted to Obama because they see him as someone who will improve the tone in Washington, bring Americans together and "get things done."
Again, those are understandable goals. The only problem is that Kennedy's view of Obama and the other one are all but impossible to reconcile.
If Obama satisfies Kennedy and the Democratic Party's most liberal constituencies, it's unlikely that he is going to bring the country together. And if Obama does truly take steps to find a middle ground between liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, he certainly will disappoint his party's base.
Full Article
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#80ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 3:18pm
I see this as the same as Obama saying he was against the war from day 1 (as I was also). He wasn't in the Senate, he didn't vote for, against or "present". When NAFTA passed Hillary wasn't in the Senate, so she also didn't vote for it. She may have changed her opinion on the issue, but I'm sure Obama has changed his mind on some issues also. I vote next week and will re-read and in better detail each candidate's website, before I vote. As of now I still lean towards Hillary.
9/10 - Next To Normal, Ensemble Theatre
9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
9/28 - Death Of A Salesman, Wright State
Updated On: 2/25/08 at 03:18 PM
9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
9/28 - Death Of A Salesman, Wright State
#81ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 4:02pm
Honestly, I'm not as hard on Mrs Clinton as many Obama supporters. I'm quick to take into account her age and the glass ceiling that she bumped up against earlier in her career. She had no choice but to ride the coattails of prominent men that could help her eventually land a gig as a pol.
Sometimes even I forget that her current stint in the US Senate is her first time holding elected office. This thread compelled me to revisit her bio yielding some nearly forgotten tidbits.
"Even before her role as First Lady of Arkansas and only a couple of years after her marriage to Bill Clinton, President Carter appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation, which she served from 1978 to 1981. During this time, she was the first woman to be chair of that board which was her main role, the majority of the time."
"Bill Clinton became Governor of Arkansas in January of 1979 and Hillary held the title of First Lady of Arkansas from 1979 until 1981 and again from 1983 until 1992. During her time as First Lady, [Bill] Clinton appointed her to chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee in 1979. While in this position she received federal funds that helped place medical facilities in poor areas around Arkansas, while not affecting the fees of doctors."
"President [Bill] Clinton appointed Hillary to be the head and the chairperson of the Task Force on National Health Care Reform in 1993, was a force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997 along with Ted Kennedy, endorsed nationwide immunization and mammograms for older women covered by Medicare, aided in increasing research funding for childhood asthma and prostate cancer at the National Institutes of Health."
She has taken a lemon and made much lemonade. Her ruthless determination is to be applauded in political circles. IMO she's made Obama a more worthy opponent for McCain in the process.
Full Article at hillary-rodham-clinton.org
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#82ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 6:27pm
I see this as the same as Obama saying he was against the war from day 1 (as I was also). He wasn't in the Senate, he didn't vote for, against or "present".
He spoke out against it while he was still in the state senate. They have videos of his speeches circa-2003 where he refers to it as a "dumb war".
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Wanting life but never knowing how
#83ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 6:37pmI am aware of his speech(es).
9/10 - Next To Normal, Ensemble Theatre
9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
9/28 - Death Of A Salesman, Wright State
9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
9/28 - Death Of A Salesman, Wright State
#84ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 6:51pmand unlike other politicians, he has never once ever said one thing and done another. not in his public life. not in his private life. not once. not. ever.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#85ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 6:54pmJust because he didn't vote for or against it in the Senate doesn't mean he wasn't vocal about his opinion. Were he in the Senate, he would obviously have voted against it. At least his view was consistent, which is more than you can say for Hillary on NAFTA. That counts for more than an official Senatorial vote.
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Updated On: 2/25/08 at 06:54 PM
Wanting life but never knowing how
#86ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 7:03pm
that counts for more than an official senatorial vote.
see this is why you're not taken seriously. you're the kind of obamanac who makes us laugh and point. you scare some people on the left with your blind devotion and nonsensical statements, but not us on the right. we want you raging and violent if possible. can you do that? can you do some property damage, good old fashioned vandalism? maybe a little assault here or there? we won't think any less of you...we can't.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#87ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 7:28pmYeah, I know, trusting your president to not constantly change their mind based on what's popular (then lie about their well-publicized previous opinion) is totally insane.
Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
#88ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 7:42pmno. you don't seem to understand at all. not very surprising.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#89ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 7:58pmClinton is an annoying, insincere and untrustworthy person.
#90ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 8:13pmI always felt the two of you had so much in common.
#92ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/25/08 at 8:23pmOoh, here come PJs conspiracy theories again. They are always so much fun and such a measure of jsut how far his senility has progressed.
#93ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/26/08 at 8:34amif the latest clinton videos are any indication, tonight's debate should be interesting... or intense! to say the least. i'm excited.
#94ri smells like desperation today
Posted: 2/26/08 at 12:11pm
i'll pass on tonight's interview portion of the pageant in OH.
can't imagine any novel revelations about either candidate's positions at this point.
cubanpab--please take copius notes and share them during the post-debate analysis on here.
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
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