DARK KNIGHT premiere... DEADLY shootings 14 dead many injured in Co. — Page 3

Gun control laws wouldn't make any difference. The decent folks would hand their guns over, the thugs wouldn't.

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It's against the law to kill people - did having that law make a difference?

It's against the law to kill people - did having that law make a difference?

To the families of the victims who know their loved ones' murderers are in jail? Yes.

Updated On: 7/20/12 at 11:40 AM

Part of the problem here IS how twisted American society has become, and that can be seen by the victims as well as the shooter. Like Wynbish said, why would you bring a baby to a midnight movie? That's incredibly selfish and a real example of bad parenting. In the wake of what happened, that piece is forgotten because of how horrible the events were. It points to, though, what American society has become. The entitled, arrogant, ridiculous attitude of people has led to a generation that feels if they don't get what they want NOW then something is terribly wrong. The shooter obviously had mental issues. Gun control or not, something is deeply wrong with a person who loads up and goes into a crowded movie theater to start killing.

I ask this only because I honestly have no idea - Columbine was the first of these types of killings that I remember. Back in the 70s and 60s - did things like this happen? I know there were other mass murders in other ways - but going into a public place and just shooting? As much as I want gun control, I don't think that's really at the root of the problem here...

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and I repeat - did it being illegal make a difference?

Namo dont get me started on your healthcare lol

I am not talking about everybody handing guns over, that would not happen (though it did in the UK), i am talking about from now banning the sale of firearms and ammo. Just take things one step at a time.

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"i am talking about from now banning the sale of firearms and ammo."

I wish all the guns in this country would suddenly turn into bunches of daisies. But that's not going to happen either. And, taking them away really would be taking away what many citizens feel is a paramount form of their freedom. I don't think the culture will ever change.

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It's not just America, it's becoming global. The recent one in Sweden comes to mind.

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I was addressing Yawper's "legality not making a difference" idea. If something like murder was legal, would there be any consequence? The fact that not every one but many murderers are convicted because cold-blooded murder is, in fact, illegal shows the difference. Consequence.

If we say that gun control laws are futile because they will not be 100% upheld, then where is the line between that and other illegal things like stealing?

Updated On: 7/20/12 at 12:01 PM

Your initial premise is false. The law is all about consequences, but that doesn't mean that making a law prevents all of the undesired behavior.

"Then you are right Namo, if American's are more bothered about owning a gun than burying their children then it will never change, it's disturbing that people would choose guns over life. I guess America is not exactly the country that should be trying to bring peace to other places."

I mean...the right to bear arms is an enumerated right in our Constitution. It's the second one, right after freedom of press, assembly and religion. It's not like it's a small thing. It's woven into the fabric of our country. For better and (obviously) for worse. There are many arguments to be made about the types of arms people should be allowed to own and how they should go about being checked and licensed. But, even as a lefty progressive, I can't see how 'Ban guns' will ever, ever happen here. And I'm not so sure it should.

Handy way?
This is a terrible tragedy. That's a really crass thing to say.

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A terrible tragedy indeed, no one's denying that. And don't think for a minute that Mitt and Anne aren't breathing a sigh of relief at the spotlight being taken off them.

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