Double Standard Re Dean

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:22pm

Should Paula Dean have suffered for an asinine comment made 20 years ago? What has happened to her is a burning at the stake when much less drastic action was needed. This is overreaction & PC gone wild

Alec Baldwin gets another pass for another homophobic comment made. He suffers no retribution .

Robert Byrd served for a gazillion years in the Senate even though he was a member of the KKK as a kid

Al Sharpton makes a comment about "jewish diamond merchants" & tops it off while speaking about "white interlopers" at Freddys Fashion Mart. This results in a wack job going in there & killing 7 people before setting the place on fire. Again nothing happens

Jesse Jackson calls New York Hymietown . He also make a comment about walking down a dark street and glad when he turns around that the man behind him is white. Same non response

None of the above suffered. Paula Dean says a word many young African Americans males call themselves. Many african American rappers sing songs about killing cops & really ripping into women unmercifully. You guessed it - nothing happens

Dean said something 20 years ago & she is battered unmercifully. What she said was wrong & disgusting but apparently no one else is interested in the double standard re this word & other nauseating comments re women and other groups made by others

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:24pm

Updated On: 6/28/13 at 09:24 PM

[finebydesign]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:32pm

For the life of me I can't rationalize the decisions made by her "partners." Random House has a best selling book they haven't even published on their hands.

As a white person this feels like scapegoat territory. So very American. Blame somebody for what you're guilty of.

Paula was honest. She was wrong. Mike Tyson was at the Tony's this year! He beat his ex-wife. He's now getting his show aired on HBO.


Look at Martha Stewart. She was wrong, broke the law in fact. But she paid, boy did she pay.

Updated On: 6/28/13 at 09:32 PM

[romantico]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:46pm

Racists who don't think they are racist defending other racists is a beautiful thing.

Calling someone a queen and calling someone the N word. Really Roxy? I mean, Really?

[best12bars]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:50pm

Racists love to say, "but what about the other guy?"

That's the way they evade and excuse any racist issues of their own.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:51pm

This is "freedom" at it's finest: Paula Deen is free to say anything she wants. Her partners are free to hire her or not. That is America in purest form.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:02pm

There are different standards all over the place. That's a fact of life most grown ups realize. I'm surprised how many people keep bringing up the Byrd story. They seem to ignore that it's a redemption narrative. He demonstrated he changed and grew out of his ignorance. Paula, who "Is what I is" seems incapable of such self awareness.

"As a white person this feels like scapegoat territory" is the unintentionally funniest "as a" statement I've read in ages. It also seems to not understand the meaning of "scapegoat".

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:03pm

THIS ISNT ABOUT the use of a word. This is only a small part that the media decided to expound upon.

You do realized the woman is being SUED for allowing/creating a hostile, racist and sexist environment.

You do realize she thought it would be cute to staff a wedding with only black waiters so it would be reminiscent of SLAVARY. (And I believe dressing them as such.)

THis goes so far beyond the n word.

[finebydesign]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:06pm

"THIS ISNT ABOUT the use of a word. This is only a small part that the media decided to expound upon. "

From what I read, this IS about her statements, not about the case. The case is actually about a white woman who is suing her for starters.

" is the unintentionally funniest "as a" statement I've read in ages. It also seems to not understand the meaning of "scapegoat"."

Please explain me.

[all that jazz]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:20pm

But did she actually threw the party? If not, I don't think simply sharing an idea is reason enough to have condemned her to the hell she's been going through these past few days. Why fire someone over something she said to her friends in a private conversation?

[jv92]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:28pm

You know, I started feeling bad for her when I heard about the book deal going down the tube, but then I watched her uber phony, grammatically shameful "apology" on The Today Show again, and thought, "What the hell am I feeling bad for? She deserves it!'

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:28pm

A scapegoat is killed to atone for the sins of others. The goat has done absolutely nothing wrong. Paula, on the other hand said "of course" she uses racist words. She also helpfully explained that "most jokes are about Jews or blacks or rednecks" (most!) and that she has no idea what kinds of words and jokes may hurt other people. No idea. None.

So for whose sins is Paula being dropped by the people who pay her money to represent their brands in a positive light, if not her own?

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:32pm

I don't know that it was a private conversation, or discussed at a business meeting. Either way, it goes to her state of mind: one of a racist. It would prove the point of the hostile work environment.

So because it's been difficult, we should look the other way? She "said" she was sorry -- so that makes it ok?

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:32pm

I don't know that it was a private conversation, or discussed at a business meeting. Either way, it goes to her state of mind: one of a racist. It would prove the point of the hostile work environment.

So because it's been difficult, we should look the other way? She "said" she was sorry -- so that makes it ok?

[SNAFU]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:32pm

Because ALL contracts have a clause that states this: that if a employee says or does something found objectionable by the employer they can be terminated. The Morality Clause is it?
The Sanity Claus is def not it because everyone knows there is no such thing as a Sanity Claus!
Thank-you Marx Bros!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:34pm

I agree with Roxy that Baldwin needs to be called out on his reflexive homophobia. I am glad Roxy is sensitized to that issue.

[mikey2573]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:44pm

" I'm surprised how many people keep bringing up the Byrd story. They seem to ignore that it's a redemption narrative. He demonstrated he changed and grew out of his ignorance."

* In the early 1940s Byrd and about 150 of his associates and friends joined together to create a new chapter of the KKK in West Virginia.

* "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
—Robert C. Byrd,letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1946

* 1947: "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation." --Robert Byrd, letter to a KKK Grand Wizard

*1958: Byrd defeated Republican incumbent W. Chapman Revercomb for the United States Senate in 1958. Revercomb supported Civil Rights which Byrd used to defeat him. .

*Byrd joined with Southern senators to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

* Byrd also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

* Throughout the 1960s, Byrd was a member of the wing of the Democratic Party that opposed desegregation and civil rights. Cited a racist study claiming that black people’s brains are statistically smaller than white people’s.

* 1968: Byrd tells the FBI that it’s time that Martin Luther King, Jr., “met his Waterloo.” FBI ignores him.

*1960s and 1980s: Byrd was the only senator to vote against both Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas to the United States Supreme Court, the only two African-American nominees.

* "There are white n*s. I've seen a lot of white n*s in my time, if you want to use that word."
--Sen. Robert Byrd, March 4, 2001 interview with Tony Snow

It sure seemed to take him a LONG time to "change and grow out of his ignorance."
You say that Byrd recanted his views. Great. So did Strom Thurmond.

[best12bars]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:53pm

Racists love to say, "but what about the other guy?"

That's the way they evade and excuse any racist issues of their own.

Oh, wait. I said that before, just a few posts up.

But it seems it bears repeating.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:53pm

I was responding to Roxy and finebydesign, who have never been trolls on this board.

[~tiny~]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:55pm

Aaaaaaand.....Roxy and Mikey, et al, weigh in with their uber transparent "recitation" of yesterday's FOX News talking points. lol...bravo for such incisive non critical parroting. Do either of you actually have any original thoughts? Oops - rhetorical question...ha ha!

Updated On: 6/28/13 at 10:55 PM

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 11:25pm

These articles give an interesting insight to the Paula issue: from specifying what she (and her brother) are accused of and what kinds of things she is actually saying during her deposition -- and catching all her mistakes.
Please read all three posts

[Playbilly]

Posted: 6/28/13 at 11:40pm

Lather Paula in butter and throw her in the Jenn-Air, and set it for 350 degrees.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 6/29/13 at 1:16am

Tracey Morgan can say he wants to stab his faggot son and keep his job. There are double standards everywhere. People are allowed to say faggot without retribution.

Politicians may openly hate groups of people and keep their jobs.

The Paula Deen affair is a curious one. It's almost as though corporations are sending a message to celebrities who endorse to keep their image tight. She's definitely being sacrificed to prove a larger point.

[ljay889]

Posted: 6/29/13 at 2:08am

Not much of an opinion on this issue, but I do like this tweet from Piers Morgan.


"Piers Morgan ?@piersmorgan 11h
Walmart dumped Paula Deen, but continued to sell AR-15 assault rifles after Sandy Hook - interesting ethical credo."

[mikey2573]

Posted: 6/29/13 at 6:28am

"Do either of you actually have any original thoughts?"

Just using those pesky little things called FACTS (the downfall of the liberal) to refute "The Redemptive Tale of Robert Byrd" by FindingNamo.