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#101

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Scheindlin served them a hearty helping of THE TRUTH:

"In their zeal to defend a policy that they believe to be effective they have WILLINGLY IGNORED OVERWHELMING PROOF that the policy of targeting 'the right people' is racially discriminatory and therefore VIOLATES THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION."


Updated On: 8/13/13 at 12:52 PM

#102

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And then there's those pesky cost-benefit analyses of the "war" on drugs and the inequity of who goes to jail vs who the worst offenders are. Then again, whoever said justice was blind!
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#103

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As a man of color living in this fair city, at least for me it's important to discuss. My 17 year old cousin who hasn't done an illegal thing in his life was stopped and frisked.

Updated On: 8/13/13 at 12:55 PM

#104

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Sue, you cannot create your own diversionary game in which no one participates and then claim you win. Sorry.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#105

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Bowing to you, Kad. Wish I could've held my tongue, but Sue is really starting to get on my nerves.
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#106

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I would suggest Sue to contribute to this board and start a thread. rather then just reply to them.
Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!
#107

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I noticed that too, SNAFU. Never starts.. Just responds. Weird.

iluv - you're right. there should be no further discussion. not only is it ineffective, but it's unconstitutional; I don't care what your skin color is. The way it is being executed is unconstitutional.
#108

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I'd suggest we all go back to responding with blank messages, but it doesn't seem to be working. Where are the mods? Another thread infected with this stupidity...
"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#109

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Kad, in response to your post to me.

Im not trying to create a diversionary game at all. I am on topic of this thread and trying to present an alternate view (which i know is not welcome by some of those who wear horseblinders) by presenting 2 very well respected black liberal officials who are universally admired by those here. The fact that no one wants to address that... even by saying yes, ok, but they are wrong here... just shows me how closed minded and intolerant some are here. its really kinda sad.


FINDINGNAMO, SNAFU, THEATERDIVE, JORDANCATALONO, LIZASHEADBAND, PALJOEY: You all claim to "IGNORE ME" I wish you would and stop constantly commenting on my posts. Thanks ...................................................................................................................................... The MOST POPULAR and DANGEROUS Poster on BWW! Banned by the PTA, PTC and the MEANGIRLS of BWW..................................................................................................................... ...Ukraine Girls really knock me out, they leave the west behind..........................
#110

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The people you want to engage will not do it. So I suggest going away.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#111

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Carlos, I agree.
#112

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Kad, will not or can not?

anyway, i said my piece. no need to beat a dead horse, im not gonna change your minds, youre not going to change mine.

Anyway, i enjoy the debate, it helps me prepare for Govt class.

thank you


FINDINGNAMO, SNAFU, THEATERDIVE, JORDANCATALONO, LIZASHEADBAND, PALJOEY: You all claim to "IGNORE ME" I wish you would and stop constantly commenting on my posts. Thanks ...................................................................................................................................... The MOST POPULAR and DANGEROUS Poster on BWW! Banned by the PTA, PTC and the MEANGIRLS of BWW..................................................................................................................... ...Ukraine Girls really knock me out, they leave the west behind..........................

Updated On: 8/13/13 at 01:34 PM

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Anyway, i enjoy the debate, it helps me prepare for Govt class.

They offer that in elementary school???

Updated On: 8/13/13 at 01:38 PM

#114

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Sigh. You're completely correct, Carlos.
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#115

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i have a suggestion..

there is an old saying... you catch more bees with Honey then Vinegar
FINDINGNAMO, SNAFU, THEATERDIVE, JORDANCATALONO, LIZASHEADBAND, PALJOEY: You all claim to "IGNORE ME" I wish you would and stop constantly commenting on my posts. Thanks ...................................................................................................................................... The MOST POPULAR and DANGEROUS Poster on BWW! Banned by the PTA, PTC and the MEANGIRLS of BWW..................................................................................................................... ...Ukraine Girls really knock me out, they leave the west behind..........................
#116

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There is a difference between supporting stops and frisk on reasonable suspicion, which is merely the law, and supporting a policy which, as Judge Scheindlin ruled, discriminates against people and subjects people to police intrusion on less than reasonable suspicion.

Don't confuse "stop and frisk" as it is used generally in jurisprudence, which is not changed by this decision, with a policy which encourages officers to stop and frisk people on less than a credible objective reason to believe they are committing a crime.

Some people will always prefer a police state. Some people will accept overreaching police actions as a preventative to criminal conduct. Others believe in reasonable limitations on police interference with our liberty, as does our system of criminal jurisprudence since the beginning of this country.

The Constitution guarantees that there will be no unreasonable searches or seizures. While less than a full blown seizure, a stop and frisk is a lesser intrusion on privacy, and is still subject to the constitutional safeguard of, if not probable cause as in the case of a seizure, reasonable suspicion.

Judge Scheindlin was, in my opinion, correct in her findings that NYPD policies need to be changed to cohere to constitutional standards, as those standards have been interpreted by our courts. Young black men are routinely stopped and frisked in this city on less than reasonable suspicion that they have committed a crime. This is not merely a practice by a few rogue officers. NYPD not only turns a blind eye to this practice but has actively promoted it through department wide policies, including a discriminatory enforcement scheme and the imposition of effective quotas on stops and frisks. And it's wrong.





Updated On: 8/13/13 at 02:18 PM

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Trolls who create straw man arguments use phrases like "universally admired by those here" which is an enormous and fallacious presupposition.
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#119

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Henrik, when you put it like that it makes a little more sense. thanks for always being the voice of reason
FINDINGNAMO, SNAFU, THEATERDIVE, JORDANCATALONO, LIZASHEADBAND, PALJOEY: You all claim to "IGNORE ME" I wish you would and stop constantly commenting on my posts. Thanks ...................................................................................................................................... The MOST POPULAR and DANGEROUS Poster on BWW! Banned by the PTA, PTC and the MEANGIRLS of BWW..................................................................................................................... ...Ukraine Girls really knock me out, they leave the west behind..........................
#120

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Sorry to hear that Carlos. Many good posters are being driven away by trolls (and a couple of nasty regulars). New people aren't coming in, and if they do, they're usually driven off. So unnecessary.

I've been saying exactly the same thing you have - just via pms.

Yay cessation of stop and frisk.
#121

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I'm very sorry to hear this, Carlos. I've loved your posts. I'm sad to see that the board has turned into this...
"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#122

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Carlos, I hate to see the bad guys win, but I don't blame you in the least.
#123

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Who ARE all the mods for the board, anyway? Aside from Rob?
It's just so odd to me that they are not a visible presence.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
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Except for Craig they've never been visible.
....but the world goes 'round
#125

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I havent seen Craig in forever.
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