For Those of Us Who Admire Bill Clinton- Page 2

[Gothampc]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 2:52pm

"I think this country has only had 3 truly great presidents. FDR,JFK,Bill Clinton."

Interesting that none of them was faithful to their wives.

Posted: 11/23/04 at 2:53pm

yes, Carl.

Go ahead and flame me all you want. I can take it.

Of your list, the least offensive is FDR.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 2:55pm

And interesting that you think that qualifies what a great leader is. How many of the great kings of europe had mistresses. Do I condone cheating? No, but do I think that makes them unfit to lead the country? No. Cause if you got caught you would lie too, just like everyman in this country. What man in his right mind is gonna say "yeah she and I did that" when he has to go home to his wife.


Leaders lead and if they are getting their d!cks wet. So be it, long as I'm not dying for daddy's oil buddies.

Updated On: 11/23/04 at 02:55 PM

Posted: 11/23/04 at 2:58pm

As long as YOU'RE not dying?

I don't see a weapon in your hand or a uniform on your back.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 2:59pm

And you won't. I'm not gonna go play live action cowboys and indians for Captain Jacka$$.


I'm not gonna sit here and argue either cause all you and the other republicans do is use circular logic and specious reasoning. and I'm not in the mood for the headache.

Posted: 11/23/04 at 3:03pm

and THIS, my friend, is why there should be a DRAFT.

By the way, I would be immune from it.

:)

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 3:04pm

another round of generalizations? maybe you should join pal on planet we don't listen to anyone who doesn't agree with us because thinking makes our heads hurt.

Posted: 11/23/04 at 3:10pm

oh, you all know I'm just playing with y'all, right?

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 3:34pm

Because papa is the model citizen of taking in opposing ideas....

uh huh

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 3:38pm

jrb, that's because your notion of what constitutes, uh, ideas is a bit different than mine.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 3:51pm

oooh, papa, you sure told me!

But actually, it is true--you and I couldn't possibly disagree more on current politics.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 4:19pm

see, but jrb, you and i manage to realize that there's more to life than politics and that people of good conscience can disagree on politics while holding many opinions on other subjects that are surprisingly similar.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 4:32pm

The problem with Bill Clinton was not that he was getting some on the side. He had a reckless disregard for the innocent bystanders in the matter. The consequences of his behavior put many of his staff members in the position of having to decide if they lie or tell the truth. What about his secretary? What about those paid by the U.S. government to protect him? What about the women across the U.S. that are trying to fight sexual harrassment in the workplace?

[B.B. Wolf]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 5:04pm

Good point, Gotham. If he had just owned up to it, it probably wouldn't have been that big of a deal. At least, in MY eyes, anyway.
Sorry, America, my wife's a frigid bitch, so I needed some head on the side. More power to ya, Billy. That's your friggin business, but thanks for tellin' .

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 5:15pm

"All the good presidents cheated on their wives..."
Hey, a man who is getting his Vitamin P is going to run the country better than a man who isn't.
Of course, Nixon had a mistress, too, so there goes that theory...

[B.B. Wolf]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 5:21pm

Very true. This man is STRESSED, people.
The First Penis needs some attention.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 6:09pm

George Bush Senior had a longtime affair with a woman named Jennifer Fitzgerald. People in Austin say that Neil, Jeb and Dubya all have similar arrangements with wives and girlfriends. Neil's girlfriend while he was married to Sharon was an employee in his mom's foundation--so even old Barbara Bush is in on the Bush family values!

Updated On: 11/23/04 at 06:09 PM

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 6:18pm

that's nothing, i have it on good authority that jimmy carter is a pedophile! howard dean and john kerry too. of the group though kerry's the only one with a preference for little black boys, the other two prefer girls of any color. johnny calls them his "lbfm's"...little black f*** machines. people i know in thailand know all about the three of them and have arranged tours for them (theresa goes along and well, let's just say she has some exotic "tastes"). it's just awful that they cannot come out and share their loves with the world, but with the ugly right wing turn the country has taken lately it's safer for their secrets to remain under the covers.

Updated On: 11/23/04 at 06:18 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 6:25pm

Oh--and I forgot!--Neil Bush emailed his wife Sharon--he emailed her!--to tell her he was divorcing her--from a hotel room in Thailand, where he was shacking up with underage Thai protitutes paid for by unnamed benfactors.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 10:49pm

What happens in Thailand stays in Thailand.

Gotham, nobody, but NOBODY died as a result of BJGate. There might have been some larygitis. Or, if the rumors are true, pharyngitis. I love watching you get up in arms over adultery and just not seeming to care about killing.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 10:57pm

Oh, is GothamPC piddling on my thread? I wouldn't know because she's on my list of BLOCKED USERS.

Tant pis, as the French say.

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 11/23/04 at 11:19pm

"The consequences of his behavior put many of his staff members in the position of having to decide if they lie or tell the truth."

A re-enactment, if you will:

Dubya: "Colin, be a buddy and go lie to every single civilized nation in the world, while also telling lies to the American people. Do it for me. This war will be good in the long run. Will you do it for me? Telling fibs to the UN isn't that big of a deal, anyway. I mean, you *like* being Secretary of State, right?"