Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

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Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 11:54am

You're lewd, you're crude, you're crass.

And there's nothing more I'd like to do than to spank your fine ass.

Homie! :)

Do you know what happens when you let Veal Prince Orloff sit in an oven too long?

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 11:58am

I don't agree with a lot of his views but there's no denying the boy's talent.

Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:47pm

Guh call me old fashioned but I don't get him. When I heard "My Name is" I thought he had something, but he's never impressed me again. He's no Cole Porter.

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:50pm

I like him b/c he's one of the few rappers who espouses respect for both women and gays. It's nice to know that not all rappers set a bad example.

....but the world goes 'round

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:52pm

And he's got a fine ass!

Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:52pm

Whether or not you agree with his views, the art he makes is incredible. From Slim Shady to Marshall Mathers to that song that I can't remember the name of (where he is reading an f-ed up fan letter), he's got an incredible amount of talent, and writes the most amazing rhymes I've heard in music in the last 40 years.

"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:54pm

I still love "Stan."

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:55pm

Who can forget Babs' reaction when she announced him as the Oscar winner for Best Song.

Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:57pm

Whether or not you agree with his views, the art he makes is incredible.

I've just never understood why Eminem continually gets a pass from people but yet someone allegedly says the word faggot on a tv set and people call for him to lose everything.

#10

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:58pm

Because Eminem is using it in a context, an artistic one. Idiots like Howard Stern, Imus, Rush Limbaugh, use it for shock value and political advantage, there's a difference.

"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl

#11

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:59pm

Oh. Sorry, I still don't get it.

#12

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 12:59pm

StageManager2, I forgot. What was Barbra's reaction?

#13

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:05pm

What's not to get? Often when Eminem uses the word, it's because it's charged and a facsimile of what he heard growing up. If nothing else, it's authentic versimilitude.

Now take an artist like Buju Banton, whose songs actually call for people to throw gasoline on "fags" and set them on fire. He's someone to rally against.

"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl

#14

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:05pm

Eminem really doesn't care if he gets a pass from you or not - your not his primary audience

"Stan" is awesome, and "Mosh" kicks, too. (You can see "Mosh" - as relevant as ever - at that YT place - posted by MethodicalMadness)

#15

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:15pm

So b/c Em heard people use faggot when he was growing up that makes it acceptable?
I'm from VA, I heard people use the "n" word a lot growing up, does that mean I get a pass to use it?

....but the world goes 'round

#16

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:17pm

Were you IMMERSED in that culture, or just overhear it in passing?
If you're a hiphop artist, and that language is part and parcel of your artform, then yes.

If you're a shockjock radio host, or just somehow who grew up in a white middle class environment, then no.

Sorry, that's how it works.

"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl

#17

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:18pm

There's no law preventing you from using it, but you have to be prepared for whatever risk the consequences pose. Some places you'll get away with it, some places you'll get shot.

#18

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:20pm

That has to be the most absurd argument I have ever heard.
So by that logic the KKK folks, who are clearly immersed in their culture, can make anti-black/jewish/muslim/gay comments and it is deemed acceptable.

....but the world goes 'round

#19

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:21pm

Actually, I do get him and respect his talent.

I do not, however, respect his sniveling little teen fans who use fag and faggot to describe everything they don't like because they aren't mature enough to see that he's playing a role.

In fact, as a general rule, I hate all teenagers until they give me a reason not to hate them.

Sorry, that's how it works.

#20

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:21pm

No...that's not how it works.

Shockjocks have as much right to use those words as Eminem. They, too, have a context. I have the right to not listen and radio stations have the right to dictate their own standards of decency.

I believe Phyllis was referring to Isaiah Thompson on the set of GREY'S ANATOMY. Frankly, I didn't really care if he was fired or not. I did, however, say that were I to exhibit the same kind of behavior in the workplace, I would fully expect to be fired.

Sorry, Fen, but you can't protect Eminem's right to use whatever words he likes and then turn around and insist that it's different for ShockJocks. You can, in your own head and within your own moral framework, make a distinction. But legally...ya can't.

"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

#21

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:22pm

blueroses, I tried to find a clip, but came up short. If I recall, she seemed genuinely surprised and happy for him. She said something like, "And the Oscar goes to... Oh my God, Eminem!" Similar to when Goldie Hawn announced George C. Scott as the winner for PATTON (not that I was alive then).

Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia

#22

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:23pm

Within the sphere of their subculture, it's totally acceptable, nay even compulsory. Outside of it, it's frowned upon.

Basically the same thing happening here, you're not part of the culture that Eminem is discussing/describing.

Is one more important than the other? That's a personal opinion.
Personally, I think Hiphop is a more important part of our culture than the KKK, because hiphop uses those words (usually) for a higher purpose.

"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl

#23

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:24pm

What you perceive to be a higher purpose.

I guarantee you that the KKK believes their purpose is higher as well.

"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

#24

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:26pm

Hiphop's purpose is by definition more constructive as an artform than that of an organization fueled by hatred and desinged for destruction.

It's pretty clear, let's not split hairs.

"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl

#25

re: Happy 35th Birthday, Eminem

Posted: 10/17/07 at 1:27pm

I have a gue$$ a$ to what the higher purpo$e might be for most mainStream hip-hop arti$t$. In fact, it'$ no different than any other mu$ical genre.

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