How Much Is Enough ?- Page 2
How Much Is Enough ?
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#25re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:16pmThen where would the money come from? Look, my mom's a bilingual special ed teacher. That's pretty specialized and important work, but would you want to pay 50% taxes so she and her fellow teachers could make what they "deserve"? Besides, how do you measure the importance of a job? Is a doctor more or less important than a teacher? A garbage collector? A plumber?
#26re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:18pm
As far as teaching goes, my friend who is a school librarian has a master's degree and supports her family quite well
Well that's a relief. I'm currently deciding whether I should pursue an M.A., and I've been under the impression that it's as worthless as a B.A., and that teachers have to live hand-to-mouth.
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Updated On: 12/11/05 at 05:18 PM
#27re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:19pm
Exactly right on both counts, Plum. We're all willing to pay for tickets to our favorite events - sports and entertainment - but we all bitch about our taxes. Yet this conversation belies that every time we have it.
BW, keep in mind that where you are in the country will have bearing on that, but that the teachers I have known have only lived hand-to-mouth until they got their Masters and/or had some years of teaching under their belts.
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Updated On: 12/11/05 at 05:19 PM
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#28re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:23pmBluewizard, I always thought an M.A. was pretty useless in the humanities. Getting something professionalish like a degree in the performing arts, a library sciences degree, or a teaching degree is one thing, but I don't see an M.A. in English being any better than a B.A. in the same topic unless you want a teaching job.
#29re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:28pm
Teachers aren't paid enough we all know.
The bottome line is athletes are being paid a cut of the revenue the event generates. Trust me, there are no poor little owners out there being bankrupted by big, bad athletes demanding too much money. At least the athletes are the ones actually playing sports and thus have generated a great deal of that revenue. Otherwise it's just going to line the purse of practical billionaires who want their pro sports franchise as a hobby.
#30re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:36pm
I don't see an M.A. in English being any better than a B.A. in the same topic unless you want a teaching job.
That's what I'm considering. Currently I'm applying to several MA programs, but it's a depressing process when I think about how worthless the degree will be when I complete it (although not as depressing as entering the workforce right now with a BA). I've always fancied being a teacher, and if the salaries are acceptable, I might finally have a goal in mind.
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner
HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
Updated On: 12/11/05 at 05:36 PM
#31re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:55pm
Dollypop, you'd be surprised.
But do Private School Teachers really earn less than state employed teachers?
In Australia they get a considerable whack more...
#32re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:57pmI believe private school teachers make more than public over here as well.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#33re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 6:01pmGood luck with everything, BlueWizard. I was rather enticed by a few simultaneous M.A./J.D. programs, but my parents pretty much summed up their doubts by saying, why the M.A.? And I couldn't say why, except I like studying. And if I'm not going to be a teacher, that's not enough justification to make them pay for it.
#34re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 6:18pmHOLY CRAP! (that's all that i have to say)
- I might be smart
- No day but today
#35re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 6:32pm
my parents pretty much summed up their doubts by saying, why the M.A.? And I couldn't say why, except I like studying.
Thanks for the good wishes. My justification for wanting an MA is the same as yours: I just like studying English literature. An MA will be completely indulgent on my part, and it's probably going to bite me in the ass.
We're such dreamers, aren't we?
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner
HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#36re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 6:36pmHee. That's the same reason I'm giving for adding another major to my degree, even though it means adding a 5th oral exam. Makes me wonder if I'll ever make it in "the real world".
#37re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 6:44pmThe real world. I can think of no place more artificial.
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner
HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
#38re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 6:47pmSpoken like someone who's never been in it.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Bluemoon
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/28/04
#39re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 7:26pm
"I believe private school teachers make more than public over here as well."
Although there are exceptions (extremely wealthy private schools, very poor school districts), in general private school teachers make 80% of public school salaries. In my school it's less than that, but our county school system is very well off.
#40re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 7:28pm
I know that at least in WA state teachers are seriously underpaid. We keep on losing teachers to CA, for one.
As for public v. private, I believe that private school teachers earn less here too.
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