How Much Is Enough ?
How Much Is Enough ?
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#0How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:35pm
In todays NY News sports section it reports that A J Burnett signed a 5 year $ 55 million dollar contract to pitch for the Toronto Blue Jays needed a further incentive to sign
His wife, who does not fly, gets 8 round trip limo rides from their home in Delaware to Toronto. I guess $ 55 Million does not buy what it used to. These assinine perks are in many contracts for superstars . Next time you wonder why ticket prices for sporting events are obscene, remember this little tidbit
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popcultureboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/03
#1re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:39pmFive years and 55 million isn't THAT huge when you consider that the cast of Friends were getting $1 million per episode plus perks EACH for several seasons. At 22 episodes a season, they were each making double what Burnett is.
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#2re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:41pmI think its rediculous how much we pay entertainers. Why don't we spend that money on things that are more important, like charity or medical research? If not, shouldn't they go to people who help the world, like missionaries?
#3re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:44pmI think teachers should be paid what we're paying sports superstars.
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popcultureboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/03
#4re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:45pmAnd nurses.
Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.
#5re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:47pmNot that they don't deserve more, but nurses (at least around here) are in high demand and make good money...
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Dollypop
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#6re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:51pm
In our school teachers should no only get higher salaries, but we should get hazardous duty pay as well. Many teachers have been injured because our precious darlings push and shove without giving a second thaought to how they might injur another person.
Damned kids!
"Long live God!" (GODSPELL)
popcultureboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/03
#7re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:52pmThere's good money and then there's GOOD money.
Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.
#8re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 12:55pmTeachers are truly the most underpaid professionals out there.
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Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. - Randy Pausch
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. - Randy Pausch
#9re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 1:14pm
I think its rediculous how much we pay entertainers. Why don't we spend that money on things that are more important, like charity or medical research? If not, shouldn't they go to people who help the world, like missionaries?
Gee Princess.....why should we pay missionaries, usually bigtime christians to preech hate and intolerance around the world.
And since you think entertainers are getting paid too much...of course you've stopped watching TV, listening to music, and stopped going to shows, right?
Teachers are truly the most underpaid and least appreciated
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
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Updated On: 12/11/05 at 01:14 PM
#10re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 1:27pm
You think teachers in America are underpaid?
Polish teachers earn about $450US every MONTH! And it gets worse the further east you go...
But I do agree that they are incredibly underpaid for the job they have to do. Don't we value the education of our children?
#11re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 1:43pmHow much do teachers make in the U.S., on average?
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner
HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
#12re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 1:54pm
NOT enough.......teachers globally are not paid enough.
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#13re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 1:59pmBut what's an accurate figure? I've heard some very different numbers.
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner
HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
#14re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 2:03pm
Private companies decide how to pay their own employees (i.e., athletes, actors). How can you tell them to take that money away from the salaries and put it toward where you think it should go?
When you have generated that kind of income and can buy your own sports team or television network, then you can do what you want with the money and pay your employees what you feel they deserve after you've given your money to the charitable organizations of your choice.
And you can't compare what private companies pay their employees to what state governments pay their employees (i.e., teachers). It doesn't work.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Updated On: 12/11/05 at 02:03 PM
#15re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 2:13pm
but rath, we can choose NOT to support those companies.
blue, this is from the US Dept of Labor, Bureau of Statistics.......take this with a grain of salt of salt. It's truly depends on the state, and school district
Earnings [About this section] Back to Top
Median annual earnings of kindergarten, elementary, middle, and secondary school teachers ranged from $39,810 to $44,340 in 2002; the lowest 10 percent earned $24,960 to $29,850; the top 10 percent earned $62,890 to $68,530. Median earnings for preschool teachers were $19,270.
According to the American Federation of Teachers, beginning teachers with a bachelor’s degree earned an average of $30,719 in the 2001–02 school year. The estimated average salary of all public elementary and secondary school teachers in the 2001–02 school year was $44,367. Private school teachers generally earn less than public school teachers.
In 2002, more than half of all elementary, middle, and secondary school teachers belonged to unions—mainly the American Federation of Teachers and the National Education Association—that bargain with school systems over wages, hours, and other terms and conditions of employment. Fewer preschool and kindergarten teachers were union members—about 15 percent in 2002.
Teachers can boost their salary in a number of ways. In some schools, teachers receive extra pay for coaching sports and working with students in extracurricular activities. Getting a master’s degree or national certification often results in a raise in pay, as does acting as a mentor. Some teachers earn extra income during the summer by teaching summer school or performing other jobs in the school system.
http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos069.htm
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#16re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 2:20pm
Absolutely true, Elphaba.
As far as teaching goes, my friend who is a school librarian has a master's degree and supports her family quite well - her husband has his own business and it has taken about two years for him to see anything at all from it - she's been the sole provider of their 4-person family and they have not been deprived of things.
My sister recently got a job (which she LOVES) as a special education assistant. She's not making a lot to start, but her bachelor's degree is in an unrelated field. She plans on furthering her education so that in time she'll be making some pretty decent money herself, and is happy to be a union member. The money in teaching is there - but you have to work to get it.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Dollypop
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#17re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 2:29pmPolish teachers don't have kids throwing desks at them or performing "lewd acts" right in the middle of the classroom. At least I hope they don't!
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Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#18re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 4:04pm*le sigh* Welcome to capitalism, people. Baseball teams make millions of dollars a year in broadcast rights, ticket sales, and merchandise, and they do so thanks to the players. The better the player, the more he contributes to team wins, a higher profile, and all that massive income. He gets paid for the money he generates. Same goes for actors who get butts into movie theatres and renters into video stores. We don't pay people according to how important their jobs are.
#19re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 4:06pm
Plum, I think you might as well just post for me most of the time. 
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#20re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 4:09pmin terms of the cast of friends, one cannot put a price on the happiness and joy those six individuals brought millions of people each week. i think they were underpaid.
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#21re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 4:10pm
People always drag out the Friends cast in this argument.
YEARS before, the cast of Seinfeld made the same amount. You know, back when a million an episode meant something.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#22re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 4:12pmYes, and what were they being paid for? Their ratings and the tremendous advertising revenues they brought in.
#23re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 4:15pm
Damn straight.
And they were working for a privately-owned corporation. Not the state.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
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Featured Actor Joined: 11/3/04
#24re: How Much Is Enough ?
Posted: 12/11/05 at 5:11pm
Thank you, popcultureboy. I'm glad you appreciates nurses. As far as good money, I make as much as a factory worker who's been on the job as long as I have. I wish my trauma nursing skills were viewed as highly as Mr. Burnett's baseball skills.
Educators, health care workers, and law enforcement jobs are often viewed more as vocations than professions. Asking for more money or better working conditions is considered disloyal and ungrateful by many people.
Considering our jobs affect everybody's basic needs and rights, we don't get paid nearly what we're worth. As Dollypop pointed out, we often put ourselves at risk to perform these jobs.
Good thing I love my job most of the time.
"We don't pay people according to how important their jobs are."
I wish you were wrong, Plum.
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