#26
Posted: 3/29/15 at 3:34pm
I've seldom seen as embarrassing a display as his interview with George Stephanopoulos.
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#27
Posted: 3/29/15 at 4:15pm
I hope more business pull of out Indiana and make it a bigger wasteland than it already is. Arkansas is already consider doing something similar.
I do wonder if there is a way to keep federal dollars away from states that openly discriminate. Federal contractors cannot do this, and if there are federal funds to spend on infrastructure, I wonder if that can be used as an additional consequence.
I also wonder if marriage equality becomes the law via SCOTUS if this law can be upheld...
Regardless, I guess you can legislate stupid.
I do wonder if there is a way to keep federal dollars away from states that openly discriminate. Federal contractors cannot do this, and if there are federal funds to spend on infrastructure, I wonder if that can be used as an additional consequence.
I also wonder if marriage equality becomes the law via SCOTUS if this law can be upheld...
Regardless, I guess you can legislate stupid.
Updated On: 3/29/15 at 04:15 PM
#28
Posted: 3/29/15 at 4:24pm
It's a desperate attempt by the right to attempt to counter the growing support and inevitable legalization of gay marriage. But thankfully it is being called out.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#29
Posted: 3/29/15 at 4:48pm
Reggie thank you for alerting me to that interview. The same question asked 10 times consecutively, good stuff. Goodbye Mike.
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#31
Posted: 3/30/15 at 1:33pm
I hope Indiana suffers extensively from the backlash.
#32
Posted: 3/30/15 at 1:44pm
Me too.
There has been a lot of financial backlash already.
There is no place in 2015 America for this backwards law.
There has been a lot of financial backlash already.
There is no place in 2015 America for this backwards law.
....but the world goes 'round
#33
Posted: 3/30/15 at 2:11pm
...But we should also hope that the LGBT organizations and pro-LGBT businesses in Indiana do not suffer because of the Asshats in their state government.
#34
Posted: 3/30/15 at 3:32pm
Yes yes, we should hope that but unfortunately that's not how boycotts work.
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#35
Posted: 3/30/15 at 3:52pm
And you don't feel any remorse over the fact that our brothers & sisters in Indiana, who are not represented by their own state legislature, may also needlessly suffer?
#36
Posted: 3/30/15 at 4:01pm
#37
Posted: 3/30/15 at 4:07pm
So what do YOU think should happen, LH?
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#38
Posted: 3/30/15 at 4:12pm
I hope Indiana Jones changes his name!
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#39
Posted: 3/30/15 at 4:29pm
Kad. I think protesting and boycotting is fine, so long as those already being discriminated against aren't hurt in the process.
#40
Posted: 3/30/15 at 4:30pm
"I hope Indiana Jones changes his name!"
If he just changes his name to Indiana Equality Jones on Facebook, isn't that enough?
If he just changes his name to Indiana Equality Jones on Facebook, isn't that enough?
#41
Posted: 3/30/15 at 4:58pm
I'd just like to hear specifically HOW one supports a boycott of a state from afar while not hurting those already being discriminated against in the first place?
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#42
Posted: 3/30/15 at 5:13pm
"I hope Indiana Jones changes his name!"
Social-media activists are attempting to get him to change his name to "Montana Jones."
Social-media activists are attempting to get him to change his name to "Montana Jones."
#43
Posted: 3/30/15 at 5:28pm
Social-media activists are attempting to get him to change his name to "Montana Jones."
#44
Posted: 3/30/15 at 5:34pm
It is for those within the state who are discriminated against, to rise up and attack from the inside while those of us in outer region fight from without. Yes some are going to hurt. Many do in a battle.
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Updated On: 3/30/15 at 05:34 PM
#45
Posted: 3/30/15 at 6:08pm
But I'm sure the famous centrist LH must have something in mind that supports a boycott with out hurting his brothers and sisters? I'd like to hear what that is.
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Updated On: 3/30/15 at 06:08 PM
#46
Posted: 3/30/15 at 8:32pm
Ok, so I currently go to a small, private, liberal arts university in southern Indiana. Based on people I know on campus and off, there's a LOT of backlash from the general public about this, especially the Indiana residents I know. Quite a few of my friends take issue with the racial discrimination factors that also play into this bill. But I've noticed that there's been a lot of dissent in general regarding the state government's policy decisions as of late - they also did some crazy stuff with public education standards that really ticked off my roommates (who are education majors) and some other primary and secondary school educators in the area that I know.
Considering Indiana (particularly Indianapolis) has been on the rise lately, this really sucks for the state. It sucks for the economy and also for the universities in the state that are known nationally for their arts programs and heavily recruit for these programs outside the state's borders (especially theatre - there are 2 highly-regarded musical theatre schools and a top-10 acting school scattered around the state). There are also some other huge economic beneficiaries, like Drum Corps International, who may leave the state to conduct business.
I'm from eastern Kentucky, which is definitely a little less progressive than Indiana, so this bill is a bit of a surprise. The only right-wing outcry I really experience here is the frequent gathering of pro-life folks outside the Planned Parenthood office down the street from my campus.
EDIT: Let me also add that I haven't seen or heard tale of a single business in at least my area that has actually refused service to someone for this reason. I think they realize that our city has such a huge proportion of college students (2 universities plus a couple community colleges) and is in such a rocky financial state that they honestly couldn't afford to turn away anyone. (I see a LOT of backlash from local businesses here, particularly bars)
Considering Indiana (particularly Indianapolis) has been on the rise lately, this really sucks for the state. It sucks for the economy and also for the universities in the state that are known nationally for their arts programs and heavily recruit for these programs outside the state's borders (especially theatre - there are 2 highly-regarded musical theatre schools and a top-10 acting school scattered around the state). There are also some other huge economic beneficiaries, like Drum Corps International, who may leave the state to conduct business.
I'm from eastern Kentucky, which is definitely a little less progressive than Indiana, so this bill is a bit of a surprise. The only right-wing outcry I really experience here is the frequent gathering of pro-life folks outside the Planned Parenthood office down the street from my campus.
EDIT: Let me also add that I haven't seen or heard tale of a single business in at least my area that has actually refused service to someone for this reason. I think they realize that our city has such a huge proportion of college students (2 universities plus a couple community colleges) and is in such a rocky financial state that they honestly couldn't afford to turn away anyone. (I see a LOT of backlash from local businesses here, particularly bars)
Every living soul has got a voice - you've got to give it room and let it sing.
Updated On: 3/30/15 at 08:32 PM
#47
Remember: what is different about this Indiana law is that it accords businesses the rights of individuals. No other state law has done that.
It's a very important distinction. Supporters of the law are trying to spin this as "19 other states have the same law."
Don't let them. It's NOT the same law. It's much, much worse.
Posted: 3/30/15 at 10:40pm
Remember: what is different about this Indiana law is that it accords businesses the rights of individuals. No other state law has done that.
It's a very important distinction. Supporters of the law are trying to spin this as "19 other states have the same law."
Don't let them. It's NOT the same law. It's much, much worse.
#48
Posted: 3/31/15 at 6:42am
^Thank you; that is absolutely being overlooked in the discussions and coverage. And Pence spin. It is vital that the impact of this distinction be viewed for what it is.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#49
Posted: 3/31/15 at 8:26am
The law doesn't go into effect until June or July, I believe.
But there was a report of a business refusing to serve what they believed to be a gay couple.
But there was a report of a business refusing to serve what they believed to be a gay couple.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#50
Posted: 3/31/15 at 9:00am
But according to Gov Pence it isn't about discrimination.
....but the world goes 'round
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