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#101

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 11/20/05 at 2:07am

It takes up all of your time
To fall in love w/ Ivy

For the love of Ivy...

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#102

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 11/20/05 at 2:39am

"When you go out in the street
So many hassles with the heat
No one there can fill your desire
Cops out with the megaphones
Tellin' people stay inside their homes
Man, can't they see the world's on fire?"

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

#103

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 11/20/05 at 2:48pm

Bumping for a little M&P love this fine Sunday afternoon.

Kringas's top fifteen Mamas and Papas songs, in no particular order:

1. Straight Shooter
2. Go Where You Wanna Go
3. California Dreamin'
4. Words of Love
5. My Heart Stood Still
6. I Saw Her Again
7. Dedicated to the One I Love
8. Creeque Alley
9. My Girl
10. Frustration
11. Safe in My Garden
12. Mansions
13. Twelve-Thirty (Young Girls are Coming to the Canyon)
14. Nothing's Too Good For My Little Girl
15. Too Late

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

#104

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 11/20/05 at 3:37pm

Fannies Top 5
1. Safe in my Garden
2. Twelve-Thirty
3. I Saw Her Again
4. Creeque Alley
5. Dedicated to the One I Love.

There will never be a group like them ever again.

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#105

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 11/20/05 at 4:38pm

I'm so glad someone else appreciates "Safe In My Garden." It seems that one is often overlooked, and it's a truly amazing song.

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

#106

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 11/20/05 at 5:16pm

The melody is just beautiful in it. It is almost a sad song. Just the way it is sung and how Mama Cass sounds. I do not know but I just love the song.

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#107

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/29/07 at 6:21pm

Bumping this because last night my local PBS showed a really terrific special about The Mamas and the Papas, chock full of vintage performance clips. I love their music so much it almost hurts.

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

#108

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/29/07 at 7:41pm

I adore The Mamas and The Papas (I can thank my parents for exposing it to their record albums when I was a kid. They were huge fans). Cass is one of my idols.

My top five:

1. Creeque Alley
2. Words of Love
3. Go Where You Wanna Go
4. Twelve-Thirty
5. California Dreamin'

I've heard Carnie Wilson say that Owen Elliot (Cass Elliot's daughter) has one of the best singing voices she's ever heard. She was originally in Wilson Phillips, but her voice was SO powerful it didn't mesh with the other girls' harmonies. Has anyone ever heard her perform live? I'd love to hear what her voice sounds like. I think she tours with Al Jardin from time to time.

Updated On: 4/29/07 at 07:41 PM

#109

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/29/07 at 8:31pm

When Cass was a sophomore, planned to go to Swathmore
But she changed her mind one day.

I always loved this line. I mean, really, how often do you hear a rhyme involving "Swarthmore"?

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#110

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/29/07 at 8:44pm

Adore them.

I love the 'flower power' anthems of yesteryear...

"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."

#111

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/29/07 at 8:45pm

It's probably safe to assume that that's the only song, unless there's a Swarthmore fight song or something. :)

I've been listening to them all day. I think these week I may have to crack out the dueling Phillips autobiographies, Papa John (by John) and California Dreamin' (by Michelle).

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

Updated On: 4/29/07 at 08:45 PM

#112

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 4:53am

I get somewhat emotional during the '60's specials on PBS, and I was born in the '80's. I always wanted to live in those times ... so much fun; being at the forefront of legendary pioneering artists like The Who, Clapton (anybody else also get emotional while watching that Blind Faith concert on PBS? During the '70's, but still ... Clapton began way earlier), Rolling Stones, Janis Joplin, Hendrix, Bob Dylan, etc, etc. It is so amazingly awesome seeing those people in their teens and 20's rockin out/dancin in like Golden Gate Park ... it really does bring a tear to my eye. A much simpler time. Society was a lot less harsh and complicated; it was the simple American way of life.

Huge fan of Mamas and the Papas ... one of the greatest musical groups ever, IMO.

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Updated On: 4/30/07 at 04:53 AM

#113

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 9:19am

I read a semi-recent interview (but pre-Denny Doherty's death) interview with Michelle, in which she mentioned the deal was being finalized to make a movie out of their story. I have no idea if it will actually come to fruition, but I always thought their story would make a great movie.

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

#114

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 9:22am

Kringas, any suggestions on casting?

#115

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 9:33am

A few years back, I thought Gwyneth Paltrow might have made a good Michelle, but I think she's probably too old now, as Michelle was so young (and looked so young) during their heyday.

Michelle said in the article that she felt that it would have to be unknowns. I wonder, with her being the last survivor, if she'd have more control over the project. I'm not holding my breath over it, but it's still something I'd love to see.

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

#116

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 10:10am

Chynna is probably too old to play Michelle now, too, though it might add some cachet to have the daughter of a founding member in the film. I don't quite know how they'll capture that spectacular sound again...they'll have to do a search for talented unknowns!

#117

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 10:30am

I agree that if the movie would have been made a while back, Chynna would have been eerily perfect, although there's a certain creepiness to the thought of playing your mother cheating on your father.

Should the movie be made, one would think the only way to do it would be to have the actors perform to the Mamas and the Papas original tracks. I can't imagine trying to recreate that sound with others. If you've ever heard "The Mamas and the Papas" circa the early and mid 80s, you'll know what I mean. There was a time when Spanky McFarlane of Spanky and Our Gang (Singer of "Sunday Will Never Be the Same," not to be confused with the little boy from the Little Rascals) was singing Cass's parts and a time when Mackenzie Phillips sang Michelle's. Honestly, they're not bad, but they in no way compare to the magic of the original four.

"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

#118

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 10:49am

Denny was such a hottie back in the day. R.I.P.

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#119

re: Mamas and the Papas

Posted: 4/30/07 at 10:57am

When Denny met Cass he gave her love bumps!

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