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Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
#25Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 1:48pmJane, he's not saying you can't buy cigarettes though. And good for him for collecting more money from them anyway that he can. How much does the country/state pay out for cigarette related illnesses each year?
dreaming
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/24/09
#26Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 1:56pmI say tax the ciggies all you want-they cause illness and those illnesses cost money, as Jordan points out. Hiding them seems stupid, though. People will still buy them.
#27Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 2:28pm
"Jane, he's not saying you can't buy cigarettes though"
Oy, do you really think I don't know that? We're not on the same page, Jordan, as we keep saying the same things back and forth to each other.
What I was asking is simple-do you agree with the mayor in wanting to hide cigarettes from view? plain and simple.
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Yawper
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
#28Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 2:31pm
Why not do the same with liquor? Or condoms? Or anything that can be huffed?
Updated On: 3/19/13 at 02:31 PM
#29Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 2:37pm
Well, liquor is sold only in liquor stores, not in bodegas that also sell candy, etc. And condoms don't endanger anyone's health.
That said, I think it's dumb. Obviously the mayor is right that too much sugar is bad for you, as are cigarettes. But his approach seems completely wrongheaded, and serves only to punish bodega owners.
#30Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 2:44pm
To be clear, once again. Of course I know that sugar, tobacco, alcohol, etc. can be bad for one's health. Even deadly.
My issue is that people should make the decision of how much, if any, of those items they want to consume, without the government stepping in to make it harder or impossible for them to do that freely.
Now you're going to say that there are some people who don't have the knowledge and/or good judgment to make that decision on their own. Well, if there are some people like that, then the government should spend money on the educating of those people on the subject, not impinge on the rights of the rest of us.
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#33Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 3:03pm
One in three children in the US are overweight or obese. What kind of choice do they have?
Plus it's not really impinging on the rights of the rest of us since all of these things are still readily available to purchase.
Having said that I do feel like the problem would be better solved through education and spending money to make sure healthy choices are available to anyone in spite of income level.
Borstalboy
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#34Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 3:15pm
The thing is to keep the very idea of cigarettes away from youth...which to my mind is only going to make them cooler and more taboo.
I think cigarettes are disgusting and dangerous, but this is a ludicrous law and further proof that Bloomberg has too much time on his hands.
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#35Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 3:19pm
"One in three children in the US are overweight or obese."
And they're obese because....
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#36Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 3:20pmYes, as Borstal says, forbidden fruit is the sweetest.
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dreaming
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/24/09
#37Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 4:39pmI will say one problem I have with cigarettes is that they hurt people who don't smoke through secondhand smoke.
#38Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 4:50pmSo why not outlaw cigarettes? All these laws and taxes charging people for smoking and vendors for selling something legal (and in many places, at an astronomical rate compared to any other substance deemed unhealthy and/or harmful), but try and pry a politician away from the tobacco industry itself and its lobbyists. Anyone think the mayor will hide the beer and wine? Or butter? Or cell phones?
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#39Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 4:54pmuh oh, we're agreeing again, Matt!
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#40Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 4:58pmI love it when that happens!
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Yawper
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
#41Nanny B: Hide the ciggies
Posted: 3/19/13 at 5:49pm
"High-energy-density foods provided the most dietary energy at least cost. Energy cost of foods in the bottom quintile of energy density, beverages excluded, was $18.16/1,000 kcal as compared to only $1.76/1,000 kcal for foods in the top quintile"
*beverages excluded*
Journal of the AMERICAN DIETETIC ASSOCIATION
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