Papa John's Pizza Obamacare Hypocrisy — Page 17

It would be nice if due to Papa John's and Denny's and any other billion dollar corporation that balks and the notion of giving its workers health care that the single payer discussion would be reignited. I don't know if it's too late and if Obama's total screw up of it means it's dead for good, but never has it been more apparent that single payer is the only way all Americans will be assured affordable health care.

Updated On: 11/15/12 at 03:11 PM

My grandfather and father were very successful businessmen who employed thousands of workers from the turn of the century to the late 80s. During the depression my grandfather would house homeless men who came through town and give them work until they could move on. Through numerous recessions the family business never laid off employees.

We had good times and we had lean times. It was understood that business wasn’t made up of ever escalating profits but a mix of strong periods and slow periods. Even with a less than avaricious business style, my family was able to be quite successful, and true to our values of fairness.

That jettisoning workers in the name of sustaining corporate growth is now viewed as a practical and even honorable practice simply shows how amoral the business world has become. I know that my grandfather would be disgusted with this new kind of CEO.

My father was a Rockefeller Republican, but became an Independent during the Reagan years. My mother became a Democrat, and is an avid Obama supporter. She’s a savvy business person, and appalled by these companies playing sleazy political games in the media to try to save a dime. These CEOs who call Obama a Socialist are the most un-American people in the country. They act like patriots but play like thieves.

There's another Facebook group called Ann Coulter's Adam's Apple that has posted some pretty funny stuff on Papa John's the last few days.

Mean, yes, but funny too.

Most people who work at Papa John's are mostly teens/young adults working their way through school or using it as a transitional job, not a job to support families. Why should they be required to provide them health insurance? That $110 million profit, (I'm not sure where you got that number, but I'll just go with it) doesn't go right to the franchise owners who are the ones having to pay for the insurance. They're not all loaded and living in palaces like you seem to think, if you go back to the first few pages, another poster, an obama supporter, explains it very well, but clearly most of you have no idea how they work and refuse to believe it even when someone who is very knowledgable about it explains it like they're talking to a first grader.

But it looks like papa john's is going to be doing better than ever with all the supporters on their side! Despite all the idiots who are going to boycott them.

Most people who work at Papa John's are mostly teens/young adults working their way through school or using it as a transitional job, not a job to support families.

as a person with RA, you should know. diseases do not wait until you have a spouse and children before it strikes. and it need not be a rare disease like leukemia. all that need happen is for some random drunk loser to plow into them. look up the average cost of health care for a head injury after a car accident, and tell me your parents have that kind of money laying around.

Updated On: 11/15/12 at 10:35 PM

Don't presume you know who is employed by these companies. I bet a good many Papa John's employees are working another similarly waged job. You live in a world of justifications you create.

...I'd kill to get a job with health insurance. Papa John's, whatever. I'd take it. Because I don't have it. My folks don't have it. I have untreated depression, 'cause I can't afford to see a professional about that right now. I am living in constant fear of getting sick enough to warrant seeing a doctor. God forbid if an accident happens to my father, mother, or me.

But all of sudden folks like you are subscribing to some unspoken social Darwinism. Can't afford insurance? Oh well. Cream rises to the top.

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Most people who work at Papa John's are mostly teens/young adults working their way through school or using it as a transitional job, not a job to support families. Why should they be required to provide them health insurance?

It's called basic human decency, and honestly this is not intended for them. Teens are covered by their parents insurance if they have them and most are working under full time I ASSURE YOU. As are people who are working their way through school. You seem to just ignore those people who DO work there to support their families & that health insurance WOULD be a great asset to have. It also adds to the morale of the store. It sends a message that this owner cares about us enough to pay for that. Not that they're just mindless parts of the machine to make John more money that he doesn't need.

And also, PLEASE how many franchisees have more than 50 full time employees at a given store? Unless you're a store that is making BANK and need a lot of people you're going to have 25-30 employees total. If your store is making bank and you have more than 50, you can afford their health insurance.

Add me as another who'd rather stick to the local pizza joints than eat some asshole's pizza who can't cough up Five Cents to make sure their employees can go to the doctor.

Updated On: 11/16/12 at 01:16 AM

Folding Shirts at the GAP while gossiping about the bitches she works with. Such a hard life.

She?

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Bitch? really jungle red? You've really stooped to new lows haha, but do you not realize it's not the CEO's who are paying for the insurance, it's the franchise owners who don't all have thousands of dollars laying around to pay for their workers insurance. Sure some of them do, but not all of them. If you knew anything about anything you would know that.

And fingerlakes, why did you delete your comment about there being no mexicans in oregon? Did you not realize until someone pointed out to you that they don't all just live in border cities? Not quite as worldly as you might think you are, huh? Maybe I do know a little more about the people who live in my city better than you?

Corporate rakes in the profits from these franchises. They can easily foot some of the bill, if they don't want their poor franchise owners to suffer so badly. It's their company, after all.

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It's very easy in this day and age to find out the profits of any publicly held company- they report them every three months. Papa Johns showed a QUARTERLY profit of $110 million last report. That is the corporation- not individual franchisees, who pay 5% of their sales to the corporation as well as purchase all supplies ind ingredients from the corporation.

Papa Johns is one of the more expensive franchises to buy into: They require a minimum of $100,000 in cash reserves and a $25,000 "buy in" by the new franchisee as well as a start up cost that ranges up to $500,000 per store.

You can pull up all this information on line. It's good to know what you are talking about.

That's not just wrong information, that's just stupidity. Anyone with half a brain and a 4th grade education knows that, yet you keep telling me I'm wrong when I'm just telling you what friends of mine are going through by owning some papa johns, I have no reason to lie to you about that. Until you own multiple franchises and are forced to pay your workers health insurance you can't tell me what they can and can't afford. Of course some franchises can afford to, but definitely not all.