Papa John's Pizza Obamacare Hypocrisy- Page 17

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 3:11pm

It would be nice if due to Papa John's and Denny's and any other billion dollar corporation that balks and the notion of giving its workers health care that the single payer discussion would be reignited. I don't know if it's too late and if Obama's total screw up of it means it's dead for good, but never has it been more apparent that single payer is the only way all Americans will be assured affordable health care.

Updated On: 11/15/12 at 03:11 PM

[Roscoe]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 3:17pm

"It is so absurd to me that right-wing America can say "sacrifices must be made" when they are unwilling to even CONSIDER returning to tax rates that they paid 15 years ago."

It makes perfect sense when you remember that they're not the ones who'll be making the sacrifices.

[GoSmileLaughCryClap]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 4:08pm

My grandfather and father were very successful businessmen who employed thousands of workers from the turn of the century to the late 80s. During the depression my grandfather would house homeless men who came through town and give them work until they could move on. Through numerous recessions the family business never laid off employees.

We had good times and we had lean times. It was understood that business wasn’t made up of ever escalating profits but a mix of strong periods and slow periods. Even with a less than avaricious business style, my family was able to be quite successful, and true to our values of fairness.

That jettisoning workers in the name of sustaining corporate growth is now viewed as a practical and even honorable practice simply shows how amoral the business world has become. I know that my grandfather would be disgusted with this new kind of CEO.

My father was a Rockefeller Republican, but became an Independent during the Reagan years. My mother became a Democrat, and is an avid Obama supporter. She’s a savvy business person, and appalled by these companies playing sleazy political games in the media to try to save a dime. These CEOs who call Obama a Socialist are the most un-American people in the country. They act like patriots but play like thieves.

Posted: 11/15/12 at 4:39pm

In response to criticism of Papa John's chief executive John Schnatter's comments criticizing the Affordable Care Act, Freedomworks -- the conservative organization closely tied with the Tea Party -- issued a statement Thursday urging people to make Friday "National Papa John's Appreciation Day."

The day of support for the Louisville-based pizza chain was begun by Reboot USA. And, of course, it has a Facebook page. There, supporters are urged to:

1. Like Papa John’s on Facebook

2. Change your Facebook avatar to the Papa John’s logo on Friday

3. Have a pizza on Friday! Take a picture of yourself and share on Facebook, as well as on Twitter with #IStandWithPapaJohns

4. If there is not a Papa John’s near you, simply tweet your support with the above hashtag

And So 'National Papa John's Appreciation Day' is Declared

[Jungle Red]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 4:42pm

There's another Facebook group called Ann Coulter's Adam's Apple that has posted some pretty funny stuff on Papa John's the last few days.

Mean, yes, but funny too.

Posted: 11/15/12 at 4:51pm

The New Yorker has a wonderful Paul Rudnick column this week- an imagination of a love letter written by a bright 11 year old to statistician Nate Silver which contained this bon mot:

I know that you’re too old for me and that if we actually met you’d probably be really nice and say something like “I predict that someday you’ll meet a boy who’s 100% right for you,” and then I would tell you my secret, that I was totally crushing on this geeky anorexic goth boy but he turned out to be Ann Coulter.

[AbbyNormal13]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 9:59pm

Most people who work at Papa John's are mostly teens/young adults working their way through school or using it as a transitional job, not a job to support families. Why should they be required to provide them health insurance? That $110 million profit, (I'm not sure where you got that number, but I'll just go with it) doesn't go right to the franchise owners who are the ones having to pay for the insurance. They're not all loaded and living in palaces like you seem to think, if you go back to the first few pages, another poster, an obama supporter, explains it very well, but clearly most of you have no idea how they work and refuse to believe it even when someone who is very knowledgable about it explains it like they're talking to a first grader.

But it looks like papa john's is going to be doing better than ever with all the supporters on their side! Despite all the idiots who are going to boycott them.

[romantico]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 10:05pm

Papa John’s Pizza Stock Price Tripled Under President Obama

http://www.mediaite.com/online/papa-johns-pizza-stock-price-tripled-under-president-obama/

Back in the real world

http://www.newser.com/story/157575/its-a-rough-day-for-papa-johns.html

[bethnor]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 10:35pm

Most people who work at Papa John's are mostly teens/young adults working their way through school or using it as a transitional job, not a job to support families.

as a person with RA, you should know. diseases do not wait until you have a spouse and children before it strikes. and it need not be a rare disease like leukemia. all that need happen is for some random drunk loser to plow into them. look up the average cost of health care for a head injury after a car accident, and tell me your parents have that kind of money laying around.

Updated On: 11/15/12 at 10:35 PM

[Jungle Red]

Posted: 11/15/12 at 11:13pm

I'm not sure what the employee ages have to do with this discussion.

Point is, bitch, those who can should help those who can't. It's a principal foundation of Christianity.

The CEOs of most major corporations can help those who can't, they just choose not to. Personally, I'll stick with North Beach Pizza or Mythic Pizza for all my pizza needs. I will say it again but I live in San Francisco!

[Kad]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 1:13am

Don't presume you know who is employed by these companies. I bet a good many Papa John's employees are working another similarly waged job. You live in a world of justifications you create.

...I'd kill to get a job with health insurance. Papa John's, whatever. I'd take it. Because I don't have it. My folks don't have it. I have untreated depression, 'cause I can't afford to see a professional about that right now. I am living in constant fear of getting sick enough to warrant seeing a doctor. God forbid if an accident happens to my father, mother, or me.

But all of sudden folks like you are subscribing to some unspoken social Darwinism. Can't afford insurance? Oh well. Cream rises to the top.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 1:16am

Sheltered, privileged, rancid cream.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 1:16am

Most people who work at Papa John's are mostly teens/young adults working their way through school or using it as a transitional job, not a job to support families. Why should they be required to provide them health insurance?

It's called basic human decency, and honestly this is not intended for them. Teens are covered by their parents insurance if they have them and most are working under full time I ASSURE YOU. As are people who are working their way through school. You seem to just ignore those people who DO work there to support their families & that health insurance WOULD be a great asset to have. It also adds to the morale of the store. It sends a message that this owner cares about us enough to pay for that. Not that they're just mindless parts of the machine to make John more money that he doesn't need.

And also, PLEASE how many franchisees have more than 50 full time employees at a given store? Unless you're a store that is making BANK and need a lot of people you're going to have 25-30 employees total. If your store is making bank and you have more than 50, you can afford their health insurance.

Add me as another who'd rather stick to the local pizza joints than eat some asshole's pizza who can't cough up Five Cents to make sure their employees can go to the doctor. Updated On: 11/16/12 at 01:16 AM

[Kad]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 1:20am

But she got a SEASONAL JOB, guys. She knows hardship.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 1:23am

Folding Shirts at the GAP while gossiping about the bitches she works with. Such a hard life.

[fingerlakessinger]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 2:09am

That is, if anything she is saying is even true.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 4:23am

She?

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 6:54am

She's got balls.

And may even have a penis to punch.

Updated On: 11/16/12 at 06:54 AM

[AbbyNormal13]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 3:42pm

Bitch? really jungle red? You've really stooped to new lows haha, but do you not realize it's not the CEO's who are paying for the insurance, it's the franchise owners who don't all have thousands of dollars laying around to pay for their workers insurance. Sure some of them do, but not all of them. If you knew anything about anything you would know that.

And fingerlakes, why did you delete your comment about there being no mexicans in oregon? Did you not realize until someone pointed out to you that they don't all just live in border cities? Not quite as worldly as you might think you are, huh? Maybe I do know a little more about the people who live in my city better than you?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 3:49pm

Then the CEOs are obviously taking too much from the franchise owners.

[Kad]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 3:50pm

Corporate rakes in the profits from these franchises. They can easily foot some of the bill, if they don't want their poor franchise owners to suffer so badly. It's their company, after all.

[strummergirl]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 4:04pm

Why crap on fingerlakes for deleted something that he found out was a wrong assumption when you, Abby, have recanted absolutely nothing in these pages and pages of garbage?

Posted: 11/16/12 at 5:01pm

It's very easy in this day and age to find out the profits of any publicly held company- they report them every three months. Papa Johns showed a QUARTERLY profit of $110 million last report. That is the corporation- not individual franchisees, who pay 5% of their sales to the corporation as well as purchase all supplies ind ingredients from the corporation.

Papa Johns is one of the more expensive franchises to buy into: They require a minimum of $100,000 in cash reserves and a $25,000 "buy in" by the new franchisee as well as a start up cost that ranges up to $500,000 per store.

You can pull up all this information on line. It's good to know what you are talking about.

[fingerlakessinger]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 6:25pm

I had wrong information and I recanted. No shame in that.
There is shame in spouting out garbage and acting like you know everything when in fact, you are wrong on so many levels.
I am typically patient with idiots. I work around some every day. But you Abby...you are a whole new breed.

[AbbyNormal13]

Posted: 11/16/12 at 7:03pm

That's not just wrong information, that's just stupidity. Anyone with half a brain and a 4th grade education knows that, yet you keep telling me I'm wrong when I'm just telling you what friends of mine are going through by owning some papa johns, I have no reason to lie to you about that. Until you own multiple franchises and are forced to pay your workers health insurance you can't tell me what they can and can't afford. Of course some franchises can afford to, but definitely not all.