Papa John's Pizza Obamacare Hypocrisy — Page 4

"But that's what's great about capitalism. It's actually a fair system. No matter how much people want to yell and scream, if they have a minority point of view, they will stay a minority. If a vast majority of people feel this way then their wallets will speak for themselves and create change."

Isn't that, more precisely, what's great about Democracy? And didn't the majority just express their support for the guy who wants to use the force of the Federal Government to encourage businesses to provide adequate health care for a larger section of the workforce?

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Now that Obama has been re elected, all of the things he wanted will not be of any matter to the Right. They'll move onto complaining about something else. Public television, maybe.

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I read a figure that said something like only 97% of small businesses will be affected by the ACA, and the other 3% make so much that it won't have a negative impact.

Since I didn't take the time to do my own research, I won't preach it as fact, but it sounds right to me.

So far, I haven't heard anything from Limited Brands (owner of Bath and Body Works and Victoria's Secret) about this. I doubt I will.

Poor Crazy Eyes. When she is up for re-election next?

Again, if you can take a $1.5M dollar gamble on a franchise, then you can afford the few extra pennies to invest in your employees health care.

That's a ridiculous amount of money.

I guess I don't.

oh look Abby, I see you are up to the old tricks of talking about subjects you have no real information on.
Some habits die hard.

Here's where you can learn some things about this act Abby/iliveintherealworld (which by the way, anyone else find that last screen name hysterical? Anyone who lives in the "real" world would see how stupid their arguments are. Just saying.)
http://hiring.monster.com/hr/hr-best-practices/workforce-management/employee-benefits-management/health-care-reform.aspx

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Updated On: 11/11/12 at 09:28 PM

Abby, if you're curious about the subject of minimum-wage earners, take a peek at Barbara Ehrenreich's "Nickel and Dimed."

What exactly is that supposed to prove to me? It says companies who employ 50 or more people and don't insure them, they're charged $2000 per employee. Do you have any experience in the real world fingerlakes? Are you even out of high school yet? How many people have you employed? My guess is zero. Do you know how many people Papa John's has employed? Thousands. And guess what! He built that company from the ground up, despite what obama might tell you about what they did and didn't build.

Actually the intent of the minimum wage law is to ensure a minimum standard of living:

§ 202. Congressional finding and declaration of policy

(a) The Congress finds that the existence, in industries engaged in commerce or in
the production of goods for commerce, of labor conditions detrimental to the
maintenance of the minimum standard of living necessary for health, efficiency, and
general well-being of workers

(1) causes commerce and the channels and instrumentalities of commerce to
be used to spread and perpetuate such labor conditions among the workers of
the several States;
(2) burdens commerce and the free flow of goods in commerce;
(3) constitutes an unfair method of competition in commerce;
(4) leads to labor disputes burdening and obstructing commerce and the free
flow of goods in commerce; and
(5) interferes with the orderly and fair marketing of goods in commerce. That
Congress further finds that the employment of persons in domestic service in
households affects commerce.

(b) It is declared to be the policy of this chapter, through the exercise by Congress
of its power to regulate commerce among the several States and with foreign
nations, to correct and as rapidly as practicable to eliminate the conditions above
referred to in such industries without substantially curtailing employment or earning
power.
The Fair Labor Standards Act Of 1938, As Amended

What insurance company/plan do you have that it costs you $500 a month?

I don't know how much my company pays for health insurance, but it's not $500 a month per employee.

"You do realize minimum wage isn't supposed to be a living wage, right? It was meant for high schoolers/college students/people who want an extra job. Not to live on and raise families with. I have no problem with companies providing their employees with health care, but when you're forced to give your employees health insurance if you can't afford it, it's going to cause people to be laid off/have their hours cut."

Think of how those immigrants feel when they often get less than the standard minimum wage that few high school kids, let alone people who go to tony colleges, could give a rip about and then are constantly demeaned with the hostile phrase "illegal" and they're seen as the problem.

I'll move from the immigration 'debate' by mentioning how globalization and manufacturing jobs leaving areas of the country that they were once the #1 employer of that area, exacerbated this effect. Manufacturing jobs are lost and if there are no other jobs in that area and no real immediate options, you bet that unemployed person takes that minimum wage job and then the second one, maybe even a third as a means of support.

The age where you can get a good job based on a HS diploma is dead. You basically have to be the next big venture capitalist who didn't need college anyway or go into the armed forces. BTW, thank goodness the GI Bill was modernized under the Obama administration that would have otherwise just supported 2 years of community college in most parts of the country- not even supporting veterans at most public universities.