Papa John's Pizza Obamacare Hypocrisy — Page 5

This person claims that she also has some kind of debilitating issue (I forget if it had to do with bones). Pretty sure pre-ACA it would be pretty hard to get insurance without some pre-existing condition BS used. So really she has painted herself into a corner of being the model of Obamacare.

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Abby, weren't you complaining earlier about not having a job? Why don't you go clean houses or pick fruit? You'd kill two birds with one stone: You'd have a job, and you'd deprive one of those pesky illegal aliens from having a job someone like you is entitled to.

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Updated On: 11/11/12 at 10:19 PM

Even if these "illegal aliens" were just visiting family, they're still entitled to health care. I don't mind my taxes paying for them to receive care because I'm a nice person! Something you aren't.

Before I finish, I will say that health care in the UK (at least in Great Britain), tourists receive government funded health care, even as much as HIV medicine and care. Why? Because it's the right thing to do.

The average is under $200 so unless you're supporting a family with that $500 premium I think you're lying.

Sorry but, no. That may be what you pay for insurance through your employer but the actual premiums are much, much higher. The last time I was a benefit rep for a company the single person premium was about $450/mo and the family premium was pushing $1,000/mo and that was over 5 years ago.

I'm weary about "criminal justice". It's one of those degrees that are advertised at those expensive, career colleges like Heald College, alongside "Paralegal".

But you haven't talked to the franchise owners that she knows!

Oh yea! I'll have to look her up.
She doesn't exist though.

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Well that owner is going to be in for quite a shock if he is employing more than 50 people, but if he only owns one or two he might not be affected at all.

And people are coming from Canada because they can't get the treatment they need, when they need it, up there, and they have universal healthcare. They have to wait months for hip replacements where now in America you can get it basically when you need it, but that won't be the case for long. A friend of mine's uncle who lived in canada, died because the doctor wouldn't see him until monday since they're off on the weekends up there. If something is seriously wrong with you on a friday, do you want them to tell you you have to wait until Monday to get it looked at?

And how can you call BS on me knowing franchise owners/small business owners? You know all my friends? They happen to be good family friends of mine and have built their company from the ground up to create a multi million dollar company. (the small business owner not the franchisee). I choose to associate myself with people who have done some thing with their lives and don't live off the government for assistance.

"And strummergirl, my grandfather went to Harvard and Stanford under the GI bill after serving in WWII, not two years of community college like you say it was before obama."

You're an idiot. I wrote a MODERNIZED GI Bill because president after president and congress after congress (I managed to make this non-partisan) decided not to keep up with the rising costs of college. The POST-9/11 GI Bill was something I was giving Obama credit for.

"And illegals don't deserve to make minimum wage. THEY'RE ILLEGAL!! They ARE the problem. They're costing this country millions of dollars ever year by going on welfare, using public hospitals and not having to pay for it etc. When they come here legally they have to make minimum wage, why don't they just do that?!"

And this is why your side will continue to lose elections starting with your boy Mitt throwing around the term, 'illegal' on Univision. They are not on welfare. None of the DREAMers I met nor their families are on welfare. Less than 1% of the undocumented receive cash assistance. Many of the DREAMers I met and am proud to call good friends are young and had no control over them coming to this country. They have worked their way through college, including UC Berkeley and UCLA. Also, and I say this as a non-religious person, do you not see how immoral and un-empathetic it is for a hospital to turn back a person from an ER because the hospital HAS to know about their citizenship status?

Wait, so you assume I meant all immigrants take minimum wage jobs that is in fact under-minimum wage? Well I was talking about the undocumented just needing to get a job to get by but okay, I'll play. Those cab drivers you see across major cities are a largely immigrant work force and since their jobs are rendered contracts and most of their money goes to the garage they lease it from, yeah, they also are often stuck with less than minimum wage. It is not easy for people from other countries, some of whom have graduate degrees and Ph. Ds, to get the same profession as they did from their home country. Why do they come? I don't know. War, genocide, political upheaval. Those seem like good reasons to GTFO and come here.

Oh, so you want to act all tough love on immigration being a Criminal Justice major? Are you sure your field isn't hiring?

Now in America you can get it basically when you need it, but that won't be the case for long. A friend of mine's uncle who lived in canada, died because the doctor wouldn't see him until monday since they're off on the weekends up there. If something is seriously wrong with you on a friday, do you want them to tell you you have to wait until Monday to get it looked at?

Really? You're really going to do this? His doctor doesn't work weekends? That's a Universal Healthcare issue? Well how about in America where my mom's doctor only works Tuesday & Thursday? It's not a mandated thing. It's not like hospitals just are closed on weekends in Canada. If you're doctor is off you see another doctor if you have a problem. If that problem is bad enough then his primary doctor probably would have come in.

Updated On: 11/11/12 at 11:03 PM