SCOTUS upholds healthcare law
#2
Posted: 6/28/12 at 9:39am
I honestly think it will be upheld.
But, BTW, I think Scalia will go off the rails. He has become an advocate, and not a jurist, and may actually be driving some of the judges to the middle. I miss Rehnquist.
But, BTW, I think Scalia will go off the rails. He has become an advocate, and not a jurist, and may actually be driving some of the judges to the middle. I miss Rehnquist.
Updated On: 6/28/12 at 09:39 AM
#3
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:05am
If Kagan had any decency, she would recuse herself.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#4
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:10am
individual mandate upheld!
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#5
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:10am
CNN reporting that the individual mandate has been struck down. Who do I see about opting out of Social Security?
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#6
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:11am
NPR vs CNN. Who is right??
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#7
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:12am
Upheld is reported via SCOTUSblog, they're calling it a tax.
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#8
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:12am
If Thomas had any honor, he would have as well.
His wife gets paid by groups advocating for ACA repeal.
But, upheld. Suck on that.
His wife gets paid by groups advocating for ACA repeal.
But, upheld. Suck on that.
#9
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:14am
Looks like they said the mandate is not supported by commerce clause, but is viable as a tax.
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#10
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:16am
"If Thomas had any honor". That should be this morning's chuckle...
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#11
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:17am
Kennedy voted 'no', and CJ Thomas was the 'swing' vote. Interesting...
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#13
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:21am
Funny, the website for Fox 'News' is usually the quickest getting info online, but they're trailing the reporting off the others. Must be figuring out how to spin this as a negative for Obama.
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#14
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:23am
Spin how they like, a conservative court supported the centerpiece legislation of Obama's first term.
Hah!
Hah!
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#15
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:25am
My local (right-wing) paper had the headline "Court Strikes Down Obamacare" up till about 20 after 9. Now they've changed it to "court Upholds Parts of Health care law." The wingnuts are gonna need some anti-psychotic drugs ASAP
Updated On: 6/28/12 at 10:25 AM
#16
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:27am
Fox News - "Negro President's Health Care Law Upheld".
#17
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:28am
This is going to be fun to see what happens!
And I'm surprised Fox didn't have a spin story all ready to go...
And I'm surprised Fox didn't have a spin story all ready to go...
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#18
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:30am
I was thinking the same thing. Could it be that they were SO certain of the outcome that they didn't draft 'disaster' scenario spin coverage?
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#19
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:33am
Well given the current state of SCOTUS, I'm sure they were sure it would go their way.
#20
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:34am
Lenny Lopate (NYC NPR talk show host) is gleefully saying that he "takes no glee" in letting people know that CNN "got it wrong" in their rush to announce the decision. He has used the word "mistake" about 15 times.
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#21
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:36am
This is what the main page of Fox News says right now. Oops.
It's funny that they can't even refer to the bill by its proper name.
It's funny that they can't even refer to the bill by its proper name.
Updated On: 6/28/12 at 10:36 AM
#22
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:40am
Here's a quick analysis of the vote by Ari Ezra Waldman of towleroad.com, who will have a full analysis up later this afternoon. Reading him always makes me feel smarter about these things.
so, here's what seems to have happened (though we don't have the opinion yet): 4 justices (kennedy, scalia, thomas, alito) would have invalidated the ACA in its entirety. 4 justices (ginsburg, breyer, sotomayor, kagan) would have upheld the ACA. the Chief Justice (Roberts) said no the Commerce Clause rationale, but said yes to the Taxing power rationale to uphold the law. So, that 5 votes for upholding the law as a lawful use of Congress's taxing power. And, since you only need one source of Congressional power, the Commerce Clause argument really didn't matter.
so, here's what seems to have happened (though we don't have the opinion yet): 4 justices (kennedy, scalia, thomas, alito) would have invalidated the ACA in its entirety. 4 justices (ginsburg, breyer, sotomayor, kagan) would have upheld the ACA. the Chief Justice (Roberts) said no the Commerce Clause rationale, but said yes to the Taxing power rationale to uphold the law. So, that 5 votes for upholding the law as a lawful use of Congress's taxing power. And, since you only need one source of Congressional power, the Commerce Clause argument really didn't matter.
#23
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:42am
Well, I guess all that neocon money funneled to Thomas via his wife was all for naught.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
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#24
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:44am
Living in the bible belt, Fox loving, Republican part of Florida, I am reading so many posts that are calling this a communist move and that people are preparing to go to jail because they can't afford insurance. They are saying that their rights are being taken away. This is why I love to escape on BWW! I used to be a pharmaceutical rep in a poor part of the city. I used to watch patients leave a doctor's office in tears because they couldn't afford their drugs- after I just spent $350 providing lunch for the office staff. Am I a communist because I think that was just wrong? Are these same people going to call for the SCOTUS to be fired because of this vote? Geesh!
#25
Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:44am
This is going to drive Teabaggers to the polls in huge numbers Y'all. We've got to turn out and make sure we (re) elect people who will support this.
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