SCOTUS upholds healthcare law

#1

SCOTUS upholds healthcare law

Posted: 6/28/12 at 8:53am

The decision from SCOTUS on the healthcare act should be handed down around 10AM. There will probably be confusion at first as different legal 'experts' try to figure out what it means (many 'experts' misinterpreted the Arizona immigration decision).

If the SCOTUS throws out the law, my oldest daughter will likely lose her healthcare coverage, which she gained when the law was enacted, so you can guess where I stand on the issue.

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Updated On: 6/28/12 at 08:53 AM

#2

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 9:39am

I honestly think it will be upheld.

But, BTW, I think Scalia will go off the rails. He has become an advocate, and not a jurist, and may actually be driving some of the judges to the middle. I miss Rehnquist.

Updated On: 6/28/12 at 09:39 AM

#3

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:05am

If Kagan had any decency, she would recuse herself.

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#4

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:10am

individual mandate upheld!

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#5

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:10am

CNN reporting that the individual mandate has been struck down. Who do I see about opting out of Social Security?

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#6

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:11am

NPR vs CNN. Who is right??

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#7

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:12am

Upheld is reported via SCOTUSblog, they're calling it a tax.

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#8

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:12am

If Thomas had any honor, he would have as well.

His wife gets paid by groups advocating for ACA repeal.

But, upheld. Suck on that.

#9

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:14am

Looks like they said the mandate is not supported by commerce clause, but is viable as a tax.

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#10

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:16am

"If Thomas had any honor". That should be this morning's chuckle...

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#11

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:17am

Kennedy voted 'no', and CJ Thomas was the 'swing' vote. Interesting...

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#12

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:20am

This is history.

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#13

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:21am

Funny, the website for Fox 'News' is usually the quickest getting info online, but they're trailing the reporting off the others. Must be figuring out how to spin this as a negative for Obama.

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#14

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:23am

Spin how they like, a conservative court supported the centerpiece legislation of Obama's first term.

Hah!

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#15

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:25am

My local (right-wing) paper had the headline "Court Strikes Down Obamacare" up till about 20 after 9. Now they've changed it to "court Upholds Parts of Health care law." The wingnuts are gonna need some anti-psychotic drugs ASAP

Updated On: 6/28/12 at 10:25 AM

#16

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:27am

Fox News - "Negro President's Health Care Law Upheld".

#17

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:28am

This is going to be fun to see what happens!

And I'm surprised Fox didn't have a spin story all ready to go...

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#18

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:30am

I was thinking the same thing. Could it be that they were SO certain of the outcome that they didn't draft 'disaster' scenario spin coverage?

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#19

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:33am

Well given the current state of SCOTUS, I'm sure they were sure it would go their way.

#20

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:34am

Lenny Lopate (NYC NPR talk show host) is gleefully saying that he "takes no glee" in letting people know that CNN "got it wrong" in their rush to announce the decision. He has used the word "mistake" about 15 times.

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#21

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:36am

This is what the main page of Fox News says right now. Oops.


It's funny that they can't even refer to the bill by its proper name.

Updated On: 6/28/12 at 10:36 AM

#22

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:40am

Here's a quick analysis of the vote by Ari Ezra Waldman of towleroad.com, who will have a full analysis up later this afternoon. Reading him always makes me feel smarter about these things.

so, here's what seems to have happened (though we don't have the opinion yet): 4 justices (kennedy, scalia, thomas, alito) would have invalidated the ACA in its entirety. 4 justices (ginsburg, breyer, sotomayor, kagan) would have upheld the ACA. the Chief Justice (Roberts) said no the Commerce Clause rationale, but said yes to the Taxing power rationale to uphold the law. So, that 5 votes for upholding the law as a lawful use of Congress's taxing power. And, since you only need one source of Congressional power, the Commerce Clause argument really didn't matter.

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#23

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:42am

Well, I guess all that neocon money funneled to Thomas via his wife was all for naught.

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#24

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:44am

Living in the bible belt, Fox loving, Republican part of Florida, I am reading so many posts that are calling this a communist move and that people are preparing to go to jail because they can't afford insurance. They are saying that their rights are being taken away. This is why I love to escape on BWW! I used to be a pharmaceutical rep in a poor part of the city. I used to watch patients leave a doctor's office in tears because they couldn't afford their drugs- after I just spent $350 providing lunch for the office staff. Am I a communist because I think that was just wrong? Are these same people going to call for the SCOTUS to be fired because of this vote? Geesh!

#25

SCOTUS decision on healthcare imminent

Posted: 6/28/12 at 10:44am

This is going to drive Teabaggers to the polls in huge numbers Y'all. We've got to turn out and make sure we (re) elect people who will support this.