SCOTUS upholds healthcare law- Page 3

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:54am

Where will these people go when the see what Canada's laws are like, Greenland?
Morons emigrate en masse

[best12bars]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 11:57am

CNN:

"The members of the school board will now present a patriotic tableau."

Huh?

"The members of the school board will NOT present a patriotic tableau."

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:00pm

The Chief justice decides who writes the majority opinion- when he's in the majority. If he's in the minority, the senior justice in the majority decides. But he was the swing vote- whichever way he decided he'd be the majority.

I think Goth is parroting part of the right wing explanation for this loss- they KNOW they are right as THEY are the ONLY ONES who know what the constitution means so there HAS TO BE a reason for this loss- and it's Roberts "trading his vote" so he can write the opinion, whatever that's supposed to mean.

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[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:01pm

This has been my favorite tweet so far.

D'Brickashaw: ?Nigga you said you could see Russia from your backyard. RT @SarahPalinUSA: Obama lied to the American people. Again

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:03pm

Close your eyes and you can hear it: "In what sense, Charlie?"

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:05pm

One of the first phone calls that House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) made was to Vicki Kennedy, the widow of former Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), who spent his lengthy career in public service championing universal health care, according to an aide.

Pelosi told Kennedy: "Now, Teddy can rest."

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but that brought tears to my eyes.

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[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:09pm

Oh Pelosi, it's not like it's single payer or the drug companies didn't get everything they wanted.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:11pm

So the Tea Bagger message seems to be This is a TAX and OBAMA RAISED YOUR TAXES. Jindal and Palin have already started that drumbeat and some doofuses (doofi?) have started the rants that people are going to prison for not having health insurance.

And under the hash-tag #pointless, the house has scheduled a repeal vote for July 11.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:23pm

So I don't watch Fox news and I'm not a right wing republican(i'm not registered to any party). I fall in the middle with my views.

I'm against this health care act and I'm not happy about it. Seems like I'm the only one on here against it.

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[madbrian]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:26pm

Actually, there are quite a few people who are against it, but it's been difficult to engage in a respectful discussion. If you'd like to express your objections, I'd be happy to respond dispassionately.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:27pm

It's not just the Tea Bagger message--that was the court's ruling. They said that the Mandate could NOT stand on the basis of the "Commerce Clause," which says that Congress can regulate interstate commerce.

The mandate could stand only because the Constitution gives Congress the right to levy taxes, so the penalty a citizen will have to pay if they fail to purchase health insurance will be considered a tax.

So the precedent it creates is that Congress can vote to levy a tax, which means that Congress can also vote to repeal a tax.

This is how the Mandate was allowed to stand, and this is how the Republicans will campaign to repeal the law. Get ready to hear a lot about taxes from now till November.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:27pm

Double post.

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[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:27pm

Triple post.

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[Playbilly]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:32pm

The Teabaggers can suck it. AND, hand back their Medicare. Hypocrites.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:41pm

"Actually, there are quite a few people who are against it, but it's been difficult to engage in a respectful discussion. If you'd like to express your objections, I'd be happy to respond dispassionately."

That's hilarious.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:42pm

"Actually, there are quite a few people who are against it, but it's been difficult to engage in a respectful discussion. If you'd like to express your objections, I'd be happy to respond dispassionately."

I'm in my mid 20s and pay for my own health insurance, doesn't cost all that much. My issue with this is that the rich already have insurance, the middle class is split with people who have it and people who don't.

The poor who can't afford it is where the problem lies, if they can't afford health insurance then how are they expected to pay these "fines" when they still don't get health insurance.

In the long run it's the middle class that is going to be affected yet again. I'm just rather tired of having these people tell us what to do. If I choose not to get health care, it should be my issue not the governments but when we have our mayor Bloomberg telling us what we can't drink and where people can't smoke none of it really surprises me.

It doesn't matter who is in charge, Obama, a republican, whoever. They are all the same in the end.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:47pm

OBAMACARE AS EXPLAINED BY REDDIT:

Bob: Hi, insurance company. I'd like to buy some health insurance.

Insurance company: No. You had cancer when you were 3 years old, and the cancer could come back. We're not selling you health insurance.

Bob: It's not my fault I got cancer when I was three! Besides, that was years ago!

Insurance company: If we sell insurance to you, we'll probably lose money, and we're not doing it.

Bob: But I need insurance more than anyone! My cancer might come back!

Insurance company: We don't care. We're not selling you insurance.

Obama: Hey, that's totally not fair. Bob is right, he does need insurance! Sell Bob some insurance.

Insurance company: If we have to, I guess.

Mary: This is cool. Obama said the insurance company has to sell insurance to anyone who needs it.

Sam: Hey, I have an idea. I'm going to stop paying for health insurance. If I get sick, I can always go buy some insurance then. The insurance company won't be able to say no, because Obama's told them they have to sell it to anyone who needs it!

Dave: that's a great idea! I'm not paying for health insurance either, at least not until I get sick.

Insurance company: Hey! If everyone stops paying for insurance, we'll go bankrupt!

Obama: Oh come on Sam and Dave, that's not fair either.

Dave: I don't care. It saves me money.

Obama: Oh for god's sake. Sam, Dave, you have to keep paying for health insurance, and not wait until you're
sick. You too, Mary and Bob.

Mary: But I'm broke! I can't buy insurance! I just don't have any money.

Obama: Mary, show me your piggy bank. Oh, wow, you really are broke. Ok, tell you what. You still have to buy insurance, but I'll help you pay 95% of the cost.

Mary: thank you.

Obama: I need an aspirin.

Insurance company: We're not paying for that aspirin.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:48pm

BwayJoe, if you want to see where the USA is headed, look at this.


Link

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[madbrian]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:50pm

"The poor who can't afford it is where the problem lies, if they can't afford health insurance then how are they expected to pay these "fines" when they still don't get health insurance."

Once the healthcare exchanges are up and running, the cost to join will be a sliding scale based on income. And the problem is multi-facted; the poor who can't afford healthcare are using more expensive emergency treatment, and many young, healthy people are opting to drop coverage.

"If I choose not to get health care, it should be my issue not the governments..."

That's a pivotal point, but the government already compels us to pay into Medicare and Social Security, so while you may disagree with the merits of the mandate, this law was not an expansion of the government's role.

"It doesn't matter who is in charge, Obama, a republican, whoever. They are all the same in the end."

If you look at the details of the law, it really is an amalgamation of liberal and conservative ideas, and the mandate was always promoted by the right, that is until it was included in the law.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:52pm

Phyllis. Bravo.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:53pm

Could someone point to me where they ruling talks about circumcision?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 12:54pm

And as a conservative friend of mine pointed out it's no more unfair to require you to have health insurance than to require hospitals to treat you even if you can't pay.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 1:00pm

Obama lied, taxpayers died.
Link

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 1:02pm

"Once the healthcare exchanges are up and running, the cost to join will be a sliding scale based on income. And the problem is multi-facted; the poor who can't afford healthcare are using more expensive emergency treatment, and many young, healthy people are opting to drop coverage."

But all the power is in the hands of these health insurance companies. Are the prices really going to go down in price? Nothing else ever goes down in price. I'll believe it when I see it. Look at gas prices, look at the tolls that Port Authority does to us.

"That's a pivotal point, but the government already compels us to pay into Medicare and Social Security, so while you may disagree with the merits of the mandate, this law was not an expansion of the government's role."

I'd also opt out of Social Security if I had the choice. I don't believe my generation or the younger generations will even see it because of all the talks about the funds running out in 20 years.

[Addison D.]

Posted: 6/28/12 at 1:03pm

And why, exactly, is it that the opponents of Obamacare don't object to the fact that we are'forced' to have auto insurance? The shock and dismay that they express is so convenient and so disingenuous.